Subject: [rec.scouting.*] Scouting Around the World Pt. 2 (FAQ 8) From: Bill Nelson Approved: news-answers-request@MIT.EDU Newsgroups: rec.scouting.misc,rec.answers,news.answers Followup-To: rec.scouting.misc Reply-To: nelsonb@aztec.asu.edu (BILL NELSON) Organization: U.S. Scouting Service Project (http://www.usscouts.scouter.com) Archive-name: scouting/worldwide/part2 Posting-Frequency: monthly Last-Modified: 1996/11/30 From: dannys@iis.ee.ethz.ch (Danny Schwendener) Subject: Scouting in Switzerland and Liechtenstein Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1992 12:38:55 GMT _Branch_ _Age Range_ _Uniform_ Wolves (Cub Scouts) 6 - 12 blue Scouts 10 - 18 beige Rover/Ranger Scouts 17 - 25+ dark red Leaders 18 - 30+ dark green The reason why the age groups overlap is because we move a kid to the next level according to his/her maturity, not his/her age. Our organization is mixed at all levels. The only thing that still reminds of the old separation between girl and boy scouts is that girl Rovers are (still) called Rangers. The young age of our leaders is a tradition. Even members of the district or national committees are rarely older than 30. The result: more freedom at the unit level, no discrimination, and a very important experience in leadership for young people. Special scout units include Sea Scouts around the major lakes and PTA scouts for handicapped kids (PTA means "scouts despite all" in german). The mandatory parts of our uniform are the shirt, the tie, any kind of good hiking boots, a firelighter and a swiss army knife. Optional parts are belt, scout jeans, hat, dagger, etc. A kid receives his/her tie and vulgo (scout name) from his unit leader in an initiation ceremony. Troops, patrols and packs meet every saturday afternoon for 3-4 hours. We spend 98% of our time outside in the woods or in the field. I get inside with my cubs three or four times a year, when the weather is clearly unbearable (temperature below -25 Celsius or snowstorm). Otherwise, we're outside. The Swiss Scouting Movement is a member of J+S, a governmental institution which promotes sports among youths. Camps for kids in the 12-18 age range are subsidized by J+S, and we also receive some basic material (tents, denim square units, ropes) from J+S for these occasions. J+S is also deeply involved in leader training (because unit leaders are basically special youth sport trainers). A major challenge for the national committees (and every nationwide company) is that Switzerland is divided in four language areas. As a result, there's not too much documentation available from National. There's no national scouting handbook per se. There's a handbook on scouting techniques which is edited by our council and has become the de facto reference book distributed by National. This book however is purely technical and does not handle the human and ethical aspects of scouting. Every 'ordinary' scouting event is embedded into a story over here. And the emphasis on story embedding is even higher for cub scouts, the idea being for the kids to live an adventure instead of watching them on TV. We end up doing the standard scouting activities out in the woods, but the reason why we do these activities and the results they lead to relate to pure fantasy. So when we mounted a giant eight-side "Berliner" tent out of 62 x 62" tent units, it was because we needed a flying saucer to escape from the planet Gorgonzola, and when we built a hang-bridge over the river, it was the gate between the spacelab and the station Mir, with millions of miles of empty space around us. ------------------------------ From: per@aber.ac.uk (Peter David Roberts) Subject: Scouting in the UK Date: 3 Apr 92 11:27:34 GMT Scouting in the UK still follows many of the ideas of the origional movement Over the years the age ranges and training awards have varied and in the last 18 months the Scout Association has agreed that if sections wish to be co-ed they may be. The Girl Guide movement is separate and I shall leave someone else to post on their format. UK Scouting is divided into 5 sections which I consider in turn Beavers age range 6-8 no specific training program aimed at fun and companionship and organised soley by the leaders. Lodge based. Cub Scouts age range 8-10.5 three stage training program(can't remember full details as it changed recently) also a diverse range of proficiency badges. Run by the leaders but with inputs from the sixers in a sixers council. Six based Scouts age range 10.5 - 15.5 The main training section with 4 stages of training leading up to the Chiefs Scout Award. Again a wide range of proficiency badges available. Program is decided by the patrol leaders council and put into practice by the PL's with the help and expertise of the leaders. Patrol based with emphasis on cooperation. Venture Scouts age range 15.5 - 20 The final of the training sections only two awards available the highest being the training award in scouting the Queens Scout Award. Emphasis is on self developement and community help. The unit is run by an executive of its members and the main task of the leader is as an advisor and keeping everything legal. Scout Fellowship age range 20+ Section usualy at the district level available to anyone who wishes to stay involved in scouting but without taking out a leadership warrent. Generaly more social than scouting but offering a very good source of experience for scouters in need of specific help. Link age range 20+ Similar to Scout fellowship only orgainsed by the Guide association Link also tend to be more active with social events. Link is an international organisation. SSAGO (Student Scout and Guide organisation) Based around Universities and colleges, these cater for Students. Programmes are both active and social much like a Venture Scout or Ranger Guide unit. The last three sections take part in major organised scout events (Competition hikes etc.) ------------------------------ From: bcockburn@acorn.co.uk (Bruce Cockburn) Subject: Scouting in the UK - F.S.E. ORG: F.S.E. (Fe`de`ration du Scoutisme Europe`en) of Great Britain. The F.S.E. is a very small traditional Scout organisation and has nothing to do with the mainstream organisation "The Scout Association". The F.S.E. of GB is a member of an organisation called C.E.S. (Confederation of European Scouts), a pan-european organisation which binds traditional Scouting organisations together across Europe. National Commissioner: Mr Richard Hyde, 68 Glebe Road, Deanshanger, Milton Keynes, , MK19 6LU Section: Wolf Cubs Wolf Cubs (often shortened to just Cubs, but never referred to as Cub Scouts) is for boys and girls between the ages of seven and ten and a half years. Cubs are organised into "Sixes", with a Sixer and a Second. The Cub syllabus is as follows: Tenderpad, tests to be passed before Investiture. First star, Second star, Proficiency Badges, Wolf Cub Award. Leaping Wolf, only Wolf Cub badge to worn on the Scout uniform. [Wolf Cub Law and Promise: see separate article at the end of this FAQ -- Ed.] Section: Scouts Scouts is for boys and girls between the ages of ten and sixteen years. Scouts are organised into Patrols each patrol has a Scout as the Patrol Leader and the Assistant Patrol Leader. The Scout syllabus is as follows: Tenderfoot, tests to be passed before Investiture. Second Class, First Class, Proficiency Badges, Explorer Cord. Baden-Powell Award, the only Scout Badge worn on the Rover or Leader's uniform. [Scout Law and Promise: see separate article at the end of this FAQ -- Ed.] Section: Rovers Rovers is the section for boys and girls over the age of 16, there is no upper age limit. The Rover syllabus is as follows; Ramblers Badge, Project Badge. Rovers use and live by the same Law and Promise as the Scout section. ------------------------------ From: oakes@rtsg.mot.com (Ronald Oakes) and smh@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (s.m.henning) Subject: Scouting in the USA (BSA) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1992 19:28:25 GMT _Section_ _Age Range_ _U.S. Grades_ _Unit/Program_ Tiger Cubs (6) 1st Pack/Cub Scout Wolf Cubs (7) 2nd Pack/Cub Scout Bear Cubs (8) 3rd Pack/Cub Scout Webelos (9-10) 4th and 5th Pack/Cub Scout Boy Scouts (10.5)-17 6th - (12th) Troop/Boy Scout Varsisity 14-17 (9th - 12th) Troop (Team)/Boy Scout Venture 14-17 (9th - 12th) Troop/Boy Scout Career Awareness Exploring (14-16) 9th or 10th Post/Explorer Explorers 14-20 (9th - Adult) Post/Explorer Sea Explorers 14-20 (9th - Adult) Ship/Explorer Air Explorers obsolete Adults 18- (Adult) Any (not Scoutmaster until 21) Tiger Cubs are eqivlent to the Australian Joey's. They are a highly parent/son orinteated activity. The Tiger's do meet with the cub pack. Wolf and Bear dens make up the "traditional" cub scout program. Webelos are a transition from Cubs to Scouts (Webelos means "We'll Be Loyal Scouts). About 3 years ago the Boy Scout (10.5-18) program was rearranged to incude Varsitity teams and Venture crews within the troop for the older boys. The varisty program emphisizies sports, the Venture emphisizes High Adventure. Both of these programs are supposed to be more Boy run than even the normal troop. Varsity Teams may also be indepentant (I think). Explorers is normally emphasized towards carreers. However, a number of "High Adventure," and hoby posts exists. The Sea Explorers has seperate positions and awards and uses sailing. Air Explorers appears to be the flying equivlent to Sea Explorers (I only know they exist from looking through my Insigana Guide the other day). At this time Girls may only join Explorer type units. However, unregistered girls may participate in Venture and Varsity activities. Also, no adult position is restricted by Sex. Personally, I suspect that girls will be allowed in all levels of scouting sometime in the next 10 years. In addition to the normal program, scouts may be elected to become a member of the Order of the Arrow, an honor camping orginazation. These activities should be in addition to normal troop, team or post activities. The Order of Arrow is primarily a service organization. Unfortunately many boys and adults join for the honor and forget the obligation to service. Alpha Phi Omega is an service fraternity orginazation that is closely associated with scouting. See the separate message for more information. Any boy with special needs can be placed in any program at any age and stay in that program as long as it is appropriate to his ability. We also have a new program called Learning For Life which is fully coed and is designed to be used in schools. It primarily uses lesson plans the are related closely to life skills for disadvantaged students. It does not use rank, uniform or anyting labeled scouting. Traditional scout programs can also be used in schools during class room time, but they only register the boys unless the students are over 14. Career Awareness Exploring is an in school program which brings speakers into the school to describe various career choices. It is supplemented with traditional explorer posts that concentrate in more detail on careers. Address for further information: Boy Scouts of America National Office Irving, Texas 75015-2079 Check your phone book for the local Council Office ------------------------------ From: millard@acsu.buffalo.edu Also-From: dmahoney@eniac.seas.upenn.edu Also-From: oconnell@rye.cs.unm.edu Subject: Scouting in the USA (BSA) - General Organizational & ethical Info Scouting began as a world-wide movement that was established in all parts of the world, and attempts to further the education, moral standards, and ethics of young people around the globe. The scouting movement does much, much more than educate boys about the outdoors and camping. It provides a learning institution in which a young man can acquire such things as leadership skills, public speaking abilities, and the techniques needed to run a large scale organization in cooperation with several other people. Boy Scouts of America is primarily involved in character-building and values-training. So, unfortunately, this often can limit the extent of their focus on backcountry activities or environmental information. Different troops are different. Find the best ones. A large part of scouting has emphasis on the outdoors. Many of our themes, and the skills that we teach are centered on the theme of camping, and the respect for mother nature. We educate these boys about such things as knots, cooking, and firebuilding, and we also instruct them on ideals such as low impact camping (which is being practiced more and more) basic backpacking, and canoeing to name a few. In order to let many troops experience the outdoors, there are thousands of camps located through-out the country. The majority of these are run by local councils (many troops in one area constitute a council, and there are many councils in a state); however, there are a few larger camps which are run by the national office. One of the most popular of these is Philmont Scout Ranch located in Cimarron, New Mexico. This is an area of land that has hundreds of miles of backpacking trails which runs semi-guided trips for troops all over the nation and world. This is typically a wonderful experience since it promotes low impact backpacking. The scouts are taught about the proper equipment to use such as boots,stoves,packs,etc. There are several other National High Adventure Bases located around the country, such as the Florida Sea Base, the Robert Service Canoe Base, located near the Minnesota boundary waters. Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts are unfortunately and strangely distant from each other. Only Scouts and Explorers can attend the "High Adventure" bases. Eventually, the increasing number of women Scoutmasters (they do exist) will ask why they, their son and husband can receive what their daughter can't. Some quasi-merger or cooperation agreement is likely in the future. Quite recently, scouting as a national organization has come into the media concerning several court cases involving moral, as opposed to environmental issues. Specifically the evidence about discrimination in various circumstances have come into question. There are cases pending in court about the dismissal of a gay scoutmaster, the refusal of the regional headquarters to admit a young girl into cub scouts, and the issue of religious influence on scouting. ------------------------------ From: naraht@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu (Randy Finder) Subject: Alpha Phi Omega (USA) Date: Fri Jan 22 1993 19:02:22 GMT Alpha Phi Omega is a National Service Fraternity whose cardinal principles are Leadership, Friendship and Service. Out program of service is directed to four areas: Campus, Community, Nation, and Fraternity. We were founded by former Boy Scouts who wanted to contine Scouting ideals in the college setting. We have about 350 active chapters in the United States and more than 225,000 students have chosen Alpha Phi Omega. There are about 150 chapters of Alpha Phi Omega, Phillipines and we are interested in extending to other countries. We were founded in 1929, until 1967 membership was only former Boy Scouts, however today membership is now open to any college student, male or female. We are not a social fraternity. We have no selective or exclusive membership requirements and there is absolutely no hazing. We maintain strong ties to its scouting roots. HOWEVER, the BSA does not finance or govern the fraternity in any way. Examples of Service to Scouting include sponsoring Scout troops, staffing camporees and other functions, cleaning up Scout camps and assisting in fundraising. Address for further information: Alpha Phi Omega National Office 14901 E. 42nd St. Independence, MO 64055-9932 ------------------------------ From: szafrans@copper.ucs.indiana.edu (Pam Furlong Backstrom) Subject: Scouting in the USA (GSUSA) Date: 2-APR-1992 ORG: The Girl Scouts of the United States of America (GSUSA) 830 Third Avenue New York, NY 10022 Daisys: 5-6 years old - Usually only the kindergarten class, although the girls may be in first grade also. They play games, make crafts, and begin to learn about Girl Scouts. They do not do any fund raising. Brownies: 6-9 years old - Usually 1st through 3rd grade, they earn patches called Try-its by completing 4 out of 6 requirements. They camp, do crafts, sell cookies and have FUN! Juniors: 9-12 years old - Usually 4th - 6th grade. Sometimes 6th graders are Cadettes instead. The earn badges, and special awards called Signs, and a Junior Aide patch. They Begin to take more leadership responsiblity of the troop. They still camp and do all that good stuff. Cadettes: 12-15 years old - Usually 7th - 9th. Sometimes 9th graders are Seniors. They earn badges as well as Interest Project patches and other awards, ie: Leadership awards, service training bars, Career exploration, Cadette challenge. The highest award for a Cadette is the Silver Award. Seniors: 15-18 years old - Usually 10th - 11th grades. By now, the girls Should be running their own troop. A good part of what they do is service oriented, They can continue to work on Interest project patches, and similar Awards that the Cadettes work on. The highest award that a Girl Scout can earn is the Gold Award. It can only be earned as a Senior. They continue to camp and do all the other fun stuff also. Girl Scout Motto: Be Prepared Girl Scout slogan: Do a Good Turn Daily [Girl Scout Promise & Law: see separate article at the end of this FAQ -- Ed.] ------------------------------ From: hung@octel.com (Hung Le) Subject: Scouting experiences in Vietnam Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1992 14:52:09 GMT My name is Hung Le, and I'm a former cub scout, boy scout, venturer, rover scout and scouter of BSVN (Boy Scout of Vietnam). Currently, I'm with the Santa Clara County Council, BSA as a unit commissioner. I would like share with all fellow scouts out there on the Net- work some personal experiences that I have had with the scout or- ganizations, especially with the BSVN. These experiences are so valuable to my life and my children as well... When I joined the Boy Scouts of Vietnam, my country was torn apart by the war. Everywhere I went, there were always fighting leftovers. It was dangerous to travel, abeit going camping, but even so, we managed to have wonderful times, troop leaders were very creative in finding places for kids to camp, to have a meeting location. Scout meeting was always outdoors, in the open air. A lot of times we went camping without a scoutmaster because of the mili- tary draft. During my 6 years as a boy scout, I had three scout- masters and their average age was about 19 years old. I remember taking my Panther patrol (yes, a Blank Panther), on a trek to a remote waterfall. Each member had to be separated by a distant of 10 meters, so that a bobby trap grenade would not de- cimate the whole patrol. I learned valuable survival skills from the boy scouts, during the war, not only to help myself, but help to my family and other beings as well. Beside learning knots and semaphores, we also learned camouflaging, how to recognize booby traps, different type of ordnance (by default), and servicing re- fugee camps. Servicing refugee camps was a constant activity for the troops and the posts. Sometimes the pack would chip in their help in making greeting lines for some big shots who come and visited refugee camps. During the Tet offensive of 1968, my ex- plorer post managed a makeshift refugee camp in Dalat province for more than 3 months. This included security for people in the camp (A lot of problems came from rowdy bands of government sol- diers trying to intimidate the female refugees, but when they saw the scouts, they thought another military unit was handling the refugee camp). This also included searching for food (mostly, by contacting GI units and the government in the area) for refugees. Sanitation was always the biggest task of the day: Talk about cleaning the out-houses for refugees!!! At times we organized 'dare-devil' teams to go into battle areas to retrieve civilian and, sometimes, military bodies to bury or to take back to the city morgue. The morgue was always full during those days. In the city, there was another youth group organized by the Red Cross, and we competed with them in collecting the wounded and the dead, along with other war trophies. One time we collected a "broken" bomb and decorated it as a gate for our refugee camp. It was quite a deterrent for those who passed through that gate. The war also took a personal toll in my life. My very first cub- master was blown up in his Jeep from an ambush. I went to his funeral without seeing his face since there were nothing left to see. The second cubmaster was killed and left behind his pregnant wife and two small girls. The third cubmaster spent almost ten year in the re-education camps. My first patrol leader volun- teered for Airborne division at the age of 17, and came back in a light casket. His mother told me that after he was killed in the DMZ area, he had to wait for a few months for transport of his body back home... There were so many Vietnamese scouts in my area that I know never made it to 18th year birthday. Frankly, without scouting, it would be very hard for me to find solace for those senseless killings. Looking back, I admired all of my scout leaders. They were true men (unfortunately, I never had any fe- male leaders, even at cub age) of their word, who lived up to scout promises and scout laws. At times, they weighed their lives light as a feather, but sometimes, as heavy as the biggest mountain in the north. At that time, deserting from the Army was rampant, but I rarely saw or heard of scouts were deserters. Even in that bloody environment, I had a blast when I was in scouting. I had so much opportunities to learn about myself and about other people. Nowhere else in life have I found such deep and emotional relationships. It was not unusual that my whole pa- trol attended Christmas mass with one Catholic member, although 6 out 7 members were Buddists. My favorite patrol member was a Chinese who came to the scout meeting with Chinese goodies from his father. Many times my patrol went camping near the National Military Academy so that at night times, we could look at the sky, watching the yellow flares in searching for communist in- truders. During teen age, I traveled up and down the coast of Vietnam, hitch hiking with two other scouts to the Delta areas. We spent two days in a notorious, scary Cambodia village near the border with Vietnam, and had a chance to observe how people were trafficking at the border. A few times, my troop went camping out of town by trekking to the military airstrip. We got in there be- cause we knew well the soldiers at the entry post. Besides I heard that the American Senior Military Advisor there was also a former eagle scout. We waited for the next empty cargo plane, asked the pilot where is his next stop, then asked for a ride. Many times we had to camp at the dirt spot nearby. It was adven- turous and a lot of fun, and a lot of disapointment too. During the Spring offensive of 1972, I went to the national jam- boree with more than 10,000 scouts camping in one of the very hot spots near Saigon. The GI Star and Stripes newspaper called it the "Warboree". Every night, there were skirmishes between two ranger batailons and the local communists from the neighborhood village.(It was possible that some of the local boys also parti- cipated in the Jamboree). The opening night was festooned with "Fire Dragons" tracers, shot from C-47 aircraft circulating ahead. Laying their backs on a green grass field, the scouts tried to decifer beautiful colors from different flares, or 'pfuff pfuff' noise from different types of gunship helicopters. Unforgettable experiences!! The Boy Scouts of Vietnam Association, ceased officially to exist as a member of the World Scout Bureau when the communists took over the South in 1975, but thousands of Vietnamese still join scout organizations in the country they resided in. Many scout units were formed in the refugee camp in Philippine, Malaysia, Singapore, Thailand and Hong Kong. I believe in France, there is an official Vietnamese Scout Association operating under the Scout Federation of France. It is estimated that there are more than 3000 Vietnamese scouts in Vietnamese scout units world-wide. In 1990, we had the Third International Vietnamese Jamboree in Cutter Camp, Boulder Creek, California, with more than 700 Viet- namese scouts from 6 countries. The event was also to commemorate the 60th anniversary of the Boy Scout of Vietnam. ------------------------------ From: nelsonb@aztec.asu.edu (Bill Nelson) Subject: Scouting in Singapore Information from: sctan@cyberway.com.sg The scout promise in singapore I promise that I'll do my best, to do my duty to god and to the republic of singapore to help other people and to keep the scout law. ------------------------------ From: chris@scout.demon.co.uk (Christopher T Wilkinson) Subject: Network Russia After the downfall of the USSR, scout units are emerging again in all the former Soviet republics. Scout UK has launched several programs to ducts of this project is a publication called Network Russia. Network Russia's goal is to encourage assistance to Russian Scouting and to ease relations and exchanges. You can get at least 3 copies of the printed edition each year by sending 2-50 to Network Russia, Oxfordshire County Scout Association, 22nd Oxford Scout HQ, Meadow Lane, Donnington, Oxford OX4 4BJ. To get a copy of the premier issue, ftp to ftp.ethz.ch and look in the directory ftp.ethz.ch:/rec.scouting/misc/ for the file "network-russia-9306". ------------------------------ From: michell@canada.hp.com, MIDDELKOOP@FEL.TNO.NL Subject: Scouting on the Air: Radio Amateur Scout Technical Info Date: 15 Feb 93 16:05:59 PST The information I have is that there are two International Scout Nets operating regularly - the European one on 14.290khz on Saturdays at 0930 GMT and the World net on Saturdays on 21.360khz at 1800 GMT. I received this via JOTA in 1988 (I have been organizing a JOTA station for the District for the last 8 years and have been an Amateur Radio for the last year). Date: 26 Apr 1995 SB SPCL ARL ARLX036 ARLX036 BSA Net/JOTA news Boy Scouts of America is establishing a new net called BSA Net, International. It will meet every Sunday at 2030 UTC on 14.290 MHz. KB8OCC will act as net control. Thanks to David Michelson, KB8OCC, for the preceding information. ------------------------------ From: dannys@iis.ee.ethz.ch (Danny Schwendener) Subject: Scouting on the Air: JOTA (World Jamboree On The Air) Also-From: David Miller, Peter Swynford Date: 3 Mar 93 10:23:38 Dates have been set for the 1995 Jamboree On The Air operating event. JOTA is an annual event in which Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts and Guides from all over the world speak to each other by means of Amateur Radio. JOTA 1995 will take place Saturday October 21, at 0001 hours local time to Sunday October 22, at 2359 hours local time. As every year since 1993, a JOTI (Jamboree On The Internet) will be held as off-stage event during the JOTA. To participate, connect to the Internet Relay Chatter (IRC) by using the irc client on your local host or by telnetting to . There will be a channel named "Scouting" (I think) where JOTers will meet during that time. JOTA is a worldwide event. Units may operate for 48 hours, from Saturday 00.00 h until Sunday 24.00 h local time. Due to the world's time differences, this period is not the same for everyone. To determine the times at which you can most likely contact a certain part of the world, calculate a time difference and ask your amateur radio operator about the radio propagation prediction (a sort of weather forecast for radio waves). Any authorized frequency may be used to establish a contact. Just call "CQ JAMBOREE", or answer Scout stations who are calling to establish a contact. National radio regulations must be strictly observed (in most countries, a licensed amateur radio operator must be present and a logbook must be held). To find each other easily, listen on the agreed World Scout Frequencies listed below. Another hint to inprove your success rate: in the weeks preceding the event, keep an eye on rec.scouting for other stations and arrange meeting times and frequencies with them in advance. World Scout Frequencies Band SSB (phone) CW (morse) 80m 3.740 & 3.940 MHz 3.590 MHz 40m 7.090 MHz 7.030 MHz 20m 14.290 MHz 14.070 MHz 17m 18.140 MHz 18.080 MHz 15m 21.360 MHz 21.140 MHz 12m 24.960 MHz 24.910 MHz 10m 28.990 MHz 28.190 MHz Also worth listening to in the UK 2m 144.325 MHz SSB 2m 145.325 MHz FM World Federation of Great Towers ================================ The World Federation of Great Towers (WFGT) is an organization in which large towers all over the world co-operate for special activities. It was founded in 1989 with the aim to stimulate communication and exchanges of all sort between the people of the world. The WFGT invites Scouts to take part in the JOTA from the top of their Towers. Amateur radio stations will be installed on the towers and professional communication facilities to contact the other towers will be made available also. The following towers are expected to take part: Centrepoint Tower in Sydney (Australia), Donauturm in Vienna (Austria), CN Tower in Toronto (Canada), Empire State Building in New York (USA), Tour Eiffel in Paris (France), Euromast in Rotterdam (Netherlands), Ostankino Tower in Moscow (Russia), Blackpool Tower in Blackpool (United Kingdom) and British Telecom Tower in London (United Kingdom). Some of these stations may use special call signs as well. It is usually planned to establish a television link between New York, Paris and Moscow at some time during the weekend. This will make it possible for the scouts at those towers to have a forum discussion. Further details are not yet known, but can be obtained from the World Bureau's radio station HB9S during the JOTA. ------------------------------ From: dannys@iis.ee.ethz.ch (Danny Schwendener) Subject: Scouting on the Net during JOTA (World Jamboree On The Air) (Note: more details on JOTA can be found on ftp.ethz.ch in the directory ftp.ethz.ch:/rec.scouting/worldwide) These were the three announced Internet Happenings that were held during JOTA 94 (October 15-16, 1994): A. JAMBOREE ON THE IRC (JOTIRC or JOTI) IRC stands for Internet Relay Chat. IRC is devoted to just "type-talking" with other users around the world. You join what they call a channel (similar to AOL's rooms, if you're familiar) and type words which appear on the channel. Everyone on that channel receives your words and can respond. The software needed is basically a client. Clients can be obtained from many ftp sites. See Scott Yanoff's "Internet Services" list on alt.internet.services for public IRC clients, or find out if your own system has the client installed by typing the following from your UNIX prompt: irc /join #scouting For more information on IRC, anonymous FTP to: cs.bu.edu:/irc/support/tutorial* One of the permanent channels on IRC is #scouting, which will be the central meeting point for JOTIRC participants. B. CIBER CAMPAMENT The mexican scouts have set up a local chat server called "Ciber Campament". While it is set up for JOTA 94, the server is already up and running today. To connect, telnet to 129.108.3.7 on port 7777 (type 'telnet 129.108.3.7 7777' from your UNIX or PC host, or use NCSA Telnet from a Macintosh). You can log in with any alias and any password. C. E-MAIL JOTA 94 Mosman District Scouts, located in Sydney Australia, invite you and the girls and boys in your Scout/Guide unit to participate in EMAIL JOTA'94. At 1st Balmoral Sea Scout Hall Mosman District Scouts, Guides, Brownies, Cubs, Rovers, Rangers, Venturers and their Leaders will be broadcasting on 2 or 3 amateur radio rigs provided by alocal radio club. There will also be a dial-up phone link between a UNIX computer called 'scoutnet', and a commercial UNIX email service connected to the Internet. In the weeks leading up to JOTA which happens worldwide on during October Scouts and Guides will be able to use the email service to pre-arrange times and frequencies for radio contact with other Scouts/Guides. For more information on this event or to get in contact with 1st Balmoral, contact John Young at yo@sydney.sgi.com. ------------------------------ From: Allan Fineberg Subject: Scouting Esperanto Date: Mon, 24 Apr 95 16:49:46 EDT [Note: a more complete version of this FAQ is posted as separate file once a month on rec.scouting and may be retrieved through anonymous FTP from ftp.ethz.ch:/rec.scouting/faq ] What is Esperanto? Esperanto is the easy-to-learn language devised by Dr. L.L. Zamenhof, of Warsaw, Poland, at the end of the 19th Century. Zamenhof saw the need for the peoples of the world to be able to transcend the barriers of language. Esperanto is used as a second language for communication between language communities. Is Esperanto supposed to replace the national languages? No. It is a neutral bridge-language between people of different language communities. What is the connection between Scouting and Esperanto? In his book, "Scouting for Boys," Sir Robert Baden-Powell, Scouting's Founder, recommends the use of Esperanto as a "secret language" among scouts. The first steps to create the Skolta Esperanto-Ligo (Scout Esperanto League) took place in 1918, after the appearance of Alexander William Thompson's booklet proposing such an organization. Since then, SEL has held its own international camp-outs, and participated in World Scout Jamborees. For the World Jamboree in August in the Netherlands, an international group of SEL activists is organizing an activity in which participants will learn the basics of Esperanto using a space-age learning tool, "Esperanto-Elektro." Why is Esperanto called a "neutral" language? It is neutral in the sense that it has no political, cultural or national/ethnic "baggage" that it carries with it. This cannot be said for the various national languages, each of which carries with it its won particular agenda, be it political, cultural, religious, commercial or otherwise. The only agenda Esperanto has is to serve as a bridge-language between all peoples. Who can give me information about Skolta Esperanto-Ligo? La Skolta Mondo, the official publication of SEL, appears four times a year. The editor of La Skolta Mondo (Scout World) is Anna Margareta Ritamaki. Her e-mail address is: A.RITAMAKI@sheffield.ac.uk until June. As of June 1st, her e-mail address will be: aritamaki@finabo.abo.fi By prior agreement with her, telefaxing is available. The General Secretary of SEL is Hector Campos Grez. His snail-mail address: Casilla 331, Curico, Region 7, Chile. Fax: +55-75-312137. How can I learn Esperanto? Get the SEL textbook "Jamborea Lingvo," by J.L. Hammer, illustrated by the noted Netherlands graphic artist Melle Hammer. It is available from: SEL, Postbus 433, NL-1500 EK Zaandam, the Netherlands. Cost: 6 Netherland Guilders + postage/handling This book is also available through many Esperanto book services, such as that of Esperanto League for North America (elna@netcom.com). In many countries, SEL runs special courses just for Scouts. Or, get an Esperanto textbook at a public library or bookstore. Find out if an Esperanto course is being offered in your area. Take the Free Esperanto Course that is available by e-mail. The Administrator of the FEC is Marko Rauhamaa. He can be contacted at: Marko.Rauhamaa@tekelec.com The same course is available by snail-mail, from several national Esperanto associations. A wealth of information about Esperanto is available at the following WWW sites: Document URL: Flavaj Pagxoj (Esperanto Yellow Pages/in Esperanto) ftp://ftp.cs.chalmers.se/pu/users/martinw./fla-pa/flavaj pagxoj.html Yellow Pages (Esperanto Yellow Pages/in English) ftp.netcom.com/pub/el/elna/Yellow Pages What does Esperanto look like? Esperanto estas neutrala ponto-lingvo. D-ro Zamenhof kreis Esperanton por helpi al internacia, intergenta komunikado. Bela, facila, Esperanto estas la racia solvo al la monda lingvo-problemo. Scouting Terms..........Skoltisma Terminaro Scout Skolto Girl Guide/Scout Skoltino Cub Scout Lupido Scout Leader Skoltestro Camp Tendaro Be Prepared! Estu Preta! Thinking Day Interpensa Tago [Thanks to Anna Margareta Ritamaki, Editor of La Skolta Mondo, who provided much of the material upon this FAQ is based.] ------------------------------ From: johnw@psychnet.psychol.utas.edu.au (John Wanless) Also-From: many, many other contributors Subject: Re: Laws and Promises around the world Date: 19 April 1995 (update) Fellow Scouters, These are a listing of the Promise and Laws that have been posted to me and Rec.Scouting with corrections as at 1/11/93 [Plus additions as of 93/11/12 and ongoing-- Ed.] Again I apologise in advance for any further mistakes and ask for copies of any variations that you can send me which I will post up in addition to these given. You can email me direct direct or post to Rec.Scouting. I am also missing the following, can anyone email these to me please, Czech Scout Laws Finland Scout Laws Greek Scout Laws *** Australian Cub Promise (8-10 yrs) On my honour, I promise that I will do my best to do my duty to my God, and to the Queen of Australia to help other people, and to live by the Cub Scout Law *** Australian Scout Promise (10-14 yrs) (as from September 1st 1989) On my honour, I promise that I will do my best, to do my duty to my God, and to the Queen of Australia to help other people, and to live by the Scout Law *** Australian Brownie Guide Promise (7-11 yrs) I promise that I will do my best: To do my duty to God To serve the Queen and my country To help other people and To keep the Brownie Guide Law. *** Australian Guide Promise (10-15 yrs) I promise that I will do my best: To do my duty to God To serve the Queen and my country To help other people and To keep the Guide Law. *** Australian Ranger Guides and Rangers Promies My further responsibility as a Ranger Guide (Ranger) is to take the Promise into a wider world. *** Canadian Beaver Promise (5-7 yrs) I promise to love God and to help take care of the world *** Canadian Cub Promise (8-10 yrs) I promise to do my best to love and serve God to do my duty and to the Queen to keep the the law of the Wolf Cub pack and to do a good turn for someone every day *** Canadian Scout Promise (11-13 yrs) On my honour, I promise to do my best to love and serve God, my Queen, my country, and my fellow man, and to live by the Scout Law. *** Canadian Venturer Promise (14-17 yrs) On my honour I promise to develop myself so that I may better * love and serve God, * respect and help my fellowman, * honour and render service to my country. *** Canadian Rover/Scouter Promise On my honour, I promise to do my best To do my Duty to God and the Queen, To help other people at all times, And to carry out the spirit of the Scout Law. *** Chile Scout Promise I promise on my honor to do all that I can to do my duty to God and my Country, to help others at all times, and to obey the Scout Law. *** Czech Promise On my honor I promise that I will do my best, to serve the highest Truth and Love faithfully all time, to fulfill my own duties and to observe the Scout/Guide laws, to be prepared to help my country and my neighbors by all my soul and body. (optional "May God help me so.") *** Finland Promise I will love, my God and my fellowmen, my country and mankind, in my life I will carry out Scout ideals. *** Greek Promise On my honour I promise, to do my duty to God and the country, to help every person at all times, and to obey the Scout Law. . *** Hong Kong Grasshopper Scout Promise I promise to be a Grasshoper Scout, to love God, to love people and to love Hong kong. *** Hong Kong Cub Scout Promise I promise that I will do my best - To do my duty to God and to the Territory To help other people And to keep the Cub Scout Law. *** Hong Kong Scout Promise On my honour I promise that I will do my best - To do my duty to God and to the Territory To help other people And to keep the Scout Law. *** Malaysian Scout Promise bahawa dengan sesungguhnya, saya berjanji dan bersetia, dengan seberapa daya-upayasaya akan, taat kepada raja dan negara menolong orang pada setiap masa menurut undang-undang Pengakap. *** Norwegian Scout Promise I promise to do my best to serve God, help others and live according to the Scout Law. *** South African Promise On my honour, I promise that I will do my best, to do my duty to God and my country, to help other people at all times, and to obey the Scout Law. *** Swedish Scout Promise we have a scout promise that says (in english transation) I promise to do my best to follow the scout law. *** Swiss Scout Promise: I promise that I will do my best to live by the Scout Law. (optional addendum for religious scouts: I ask god and my friends to help me reach this goal). Important note: None of the two texts play an important role in the life of a swiss scout. A scout promise is considered as something very special. It is only meaningful if you really, really, really plan to keep that promise. It's a good guideline for the scout leader, though. In day-to-day life, a swiss scout learns to live by the law in a very natural way, by following the example of his/her leader and his/her companions. *** UK Scout Promise (B-P's original) On my honour I promise that I will do my best, to do my duty to God and the King, to help other people all the time, to obey the Scout Law. *** UK Scout Promise (current) On my honour, I promise that I will do my best to do my duty to God and to the Queen, to help other people and to keep the Scout Law. *** UK Cub Scout Promise I promise to do my best to do my duty to God and the Queen, to help other people and to keep the Cub Scout Law. *** UK (?) Scout Promise (F.S.E.) (a European scouting body in Great Britain) On my honour I promise that I will do my best, to do my duty to God, the Queen, my country and Europe, to help other people at all times, and to obey the Scout Law. *** UK (?) Wolf Cub Promise (F.S.E.) I promise to do my best, To do my duty to God, the Queen, my Country and Europe, To keep the law of the Wolf Cub Pack, And be helpful each and every day. *** USA Promise (Boy Scouts of America) On my honor, I will do my best, to do my duty, to God and my country, and to obey the Scout Law, to help other people at all times, to keep myself physically strong , mentally awake, and morally straight. *** USA Promise (Girl Scouts of the USA) On my Honor, I will try to serve God and my country to help people at all times and to live by the Girl Scout Law *** Australian Cub Scout Laws Cub Scouts are loyal and obedient Cub Scouts do not give in to themselves *** Australian Scout Laws A Scout is trustworthy A Scout is loyal A Scout is helpful A Scout is friendly A Scout is cheerful A Scout is considerate A Scout is thrifty A Scout is courageous A Scout is respectful A Scout cares for the environment *** Australian Brownie Guide Laws A Brownie Guide thinks of others before herself and does a good turn every day. *** Australian Guide Laws A Guide is loyal and can be trusted A Guide is helpful A Guide is polite and considerate A Guide is friendly and a sister to all Guides A Guide is kind to animals and respects all living things. A Guide is obedient. A Guide has courage and is cheerful in all difficulties. A Guide makes good use of her time. A Guide takes care of her own possessions and those of other people. A Guide is self-controlled in all she thinks, says and does. *** Canadian Scout Laws: Beavers: A Beaver has fun, works hard and helps his/her family and friends. motto: Sharing, Sharing, Sharing lf, The Cub respects him/herself. motto: Do your best Scouts: A Scout is helpful and trustworthy, kind and cheerful, considerate and clean, wise in the use of his/her resources. motto: Be prepared Venturers: No law. The company can put moral standards, if they so choose, into their company bylaws. motto: Challenge Rovers and Adults: The Scout Law. motto: Service I should point out that the people in our National office have not yet changed (officially) the Laws to reflect gender inclusion. The present ones only refer to "him", "himself", etc. However, most of us use the "her", "herself" or a neutral word when appropriate. *** Chile Scout Law The Scout places his honor in being worthy of trust. The Scout is loyal. The Scout is useful and helps others, without thinking of compensation. The Scout is a friend to all and a brother to any Scout. The Scout is courteous and gentlemanly. The Scout loves Nature and protects animals and plants. The Scout smiles and sings in difficult times. The Scout is obedient. The Scout is thrifty. The Scout is clean and pure in thought, word and deed. *** Czech Scout/Guide Law A Scout/Guide 1. speaks the true 2. can be trusted and is loyal 3. is useful for the society and helps others 4. is a friend to all people of good will and a brother/sister of all Scouts and Guides 5. is courteous 6. protects nature and valuable human products 7. obeys his/her parents, superiors and Scout/Guide leaders 8. is of cheerful mind 9. is thrifty 10.is pure in thought, word and deeds *** Norwegian Scout Law A Scout is open to God and His word; A Scout accepts responsibility for himself and others; A Scout is helpful and conciderate; A Scout is a good friend; A Scout is honest and thrustworthy; A Scout knows and protects the Nature; A Scout thinks and acts independently, and tries to understand other people; A Scout does his best in difficulties and troubles; A Scout is thrifty; A Scout works for peace and understanding between people. ('himself' also means 'herself') *** South African Scout Law Our actual laws are based on an abbreviated version of the British laws: 1. A Scout's Honour is to be trusted 2. A Scout is loyal. 3. A Scout's duty is to be useful and to help others 4. A Scout is a friend to all and a brother to every other Scout 5. A Scout is courteous 6. A Scout is a friend to animals 7. A Scout obeys orders 8. A Scout smiles and whistles under all difficulties 9. A Scout is thrifty 10. A Scout is clean in thought, word and deed. We use a rhyme to remember the laws: "Trusty, loyal, helpful, Brotherly, courteous, kind, Obedient, Smiling, Thrifty, Clean in body and mind" *** Swedish Scout Law (english translation, with no warranties) 1. A Scout is reverent to God and His word. 2. A Scout is honest and trustworthy. 3. A Scout is friendly and helpful. 4. A scout is considerate and a good companion. 5. A scout overcomes difficulties with humour. 6. A Scout learns to know and protects the Nature. 7. A Scout accepts responsibility for herself/himself and others. *** Swiss Scout Law (english translation, with no warranties) A scout is honest towards him-/herself and the others A scout stands to his/her belief [whichever it is] and respects the belief of others. A scout takes care of the nature and all living beings A scout helps wherever he/she can A scout is a good companion A scout keeps his/her self-control A scout can integrate him-/herself in the community A scout overcomes difficulties with humor A scout can renounce A scout is ready [willing] to take responsibility. *** UK Scout Law 1. A Scout is to be trusted. 2. A Scout is loyal. 3. A Scout is friendly and considerate. 4. A Scout belongs to the world-wide family of Scouts. 5. A Scout has courage in all difficulties. 6. A Scout makes good use of time and is careful of possessions and property. 7. A Scout has self-respect and respect for others. *** UK Cub Law Cub Scouts always do their best, think of others before themselves and do a good turn every day. *** UK (& other?) Cub Law (F.S.E.) The Cub honours his parents and obeys his leaders, Always does his best and is a friend to all. *** UK (& other?) Scout Law (F.S.E.) 1. A Scout's honour is to be trusted. 2. A Scout is loyal to his Queen, his Country, his Scouters, his Parents, his Employers, and those under him 3. A Scout's duty is to be useful and to help others. 4. A Scout is a friend to all, and a brother to every other Scout, no matter to what country, class or creed the other belongs. 5. A Scout is courteous. 6. A Scout is a friend to animals and to all other created things. 7. A Scout obeys the orders of his parents, Patrol Leader, or Scout Master without question. 8. A Scout smiles and whistles under all difficulties. 9. A Scout is thrifty. 10. A Scout is clean in thought, word and deed. *** USA Scout Law (Boy Scouts of America) A Scout is... Trustworthy, Loyal, Helpful, Friendly, Courteous, Kind, Obedient, Cheerful, Thrifty, Brave, Clean, and Reverent. *** USA Scout Law (Girl Scouts of the USA) I will do my best: to be honest to be fair to help where I am needed to be cheerful to be friendly and considerate to be a sister to every Girl Scout to respect authority to use resources wisely to protect and improve the world around me to show respect for myself and other through my words and actions *** Rover Prayer By the spirits of the just, Made perfect in their suffering, Teach us in our turn Oh Lord, To serve thee as we aught, To give and not to count the cost, To fight and not to heed the wounds, To toil and not to seek for rest, To labour and not to seek for any reward, Save that of knowing that we do thy will. ------------------------------ End of rec.scouting FAQ #8 **************************