REFLECTIONS:
 MEANING

  From owner-jambo97@freke.hoplite.org  Mon Nov 18 15:33:14 1996
Return-Path: owner-jambo97@freke.hoplite.org
Received: from playpen.internex.net (playpen.InterNex.Net [199.2.13.17]) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id PAA29716 for <mfbowman@capaccess.org>; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 15:33:14 -0500
Received: from freke.hoplite.org ([205.158.197.130])
          by playpen.internex.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-11030)
          with ESMTP id AAB28971; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 11:38:02 -0800
Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by freke.hoplite.org (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id LAA16683; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 11:37:51 -0800 (PST)
Received: (from daemon@localhost) by freke.hoplite.org (8.7.5/8.7.5) id LAA16677 for jambo97-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 11:37:49 -0800 (PST)
X-Sender: dwgentry@mail.wco.com
Message-Id: <v02130500aeb66b80f35f@[207.48.88.26]>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 11:38:13 -0800
To: jambo97@hoplite.org
From: dwgentry@polarconsult.com (Doug Gentry)
Subject: JAMBO97 Reflection #2
Errors-To: owner-jambo97@hoplite.org
Precedence: bulk
Reply-To: jambo97@hoplite.org
Status: RO
X-Status: 

What does Scouting mean to the boys in your Jamboree troop, or the Scouts
you will be serving in your staff capacity at the Jamboree?

Take yourself back a few years (OK, maybe a lot of years) and put yourself
in the shoes of the boys you are going to be with at the Jamboree. What
does Scouting mean to them?  If you have a chance you might even ask a
couple and share the results.

*****
Notes on Reflections:

This week-long experience for members of Jambo97 is intended to give us an
opportunity to reflect on the special experience we are preparing for
25,000 Scouts both near to us and far away.

As with any reflection we are most interested in your thoughts,
experiences, and ideas. Please save your judgement for the answers others
give to your own heart and conscience. If some one's contribution sparks a
memory or inspiration in you - by all means give them credit.

There will be another question tomorrow, but feel free to respond to this
one when inspiration strikes - even if it is two weeks later!

Have fun!

*****
Another favor - please hold off on routine questions and comments during
the week of November 17-23. We'll dive right back in with those at the end
of the week. If someone forgets our request, remember that forgiveness is a
virtue, and that the list owner will be sending his own polite reminder.

Yours in Scouting,

Doug and all the Jambo97 List Members

From owner-jambo97@freke.hoplite.org  Mon Nov 18 18:07:07 1996
Return-Path: owner-jambo97@freke.hoplite.org
Received: from playpen.internex.net (playpen.InterNex.Net [199.2.13.17]) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id SAA23370 for <mfbowman@capaccess.org>; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 18:07:07 -0500
Received: from freke.hoplite.org ([205.158.197.130])
          by playpen.internex.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-11030)
          with ESMTP id AAB8865; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 15:03:36 -0800
Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by freke.hoplite.org (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id PAA24287; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 15:03:30 -0800 (PST)
Received: (from daemon@localhost) by freke.hoplite.org (8.7.5/8.7.5) id PAA24281 for jambo97-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 15:03:28 -0800 (PST)
Message-Id: <s290a481.001@flagler.edu>
X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 18:01:09 -0500
From: Michael Fedelem <fedelemj@flagler.edu>
To: jambo97@hoplite.org
Subject: JAMBO97 Reflection #2 -Reply
Errors-To: owner-jambo97@hoplite.org
Precedence: bulk
Reply-To: jambo97@hoplite.org
Status: RO
X-Status: 

When I look back on my adventure at the '93 Jambo. I remember
hundreds of faces that were always smiling.  The staff that year made
such a positive impact on my experience, and they caused me to desire
the honor of working on camp staff.  No matter where I was the staff
was always friendly, and kind.  They exemplified all the good points that
we know in scouting, and that is something I want to give back to the
scouts and visitors at this Jamboree.  As an Eagle Scouts we are faced
with the challenge of setting the example, and providing guidance to the
Eagles of tomorrow;  there can be no better place to do this than at a
National Jamboree.  As staff we must show the ideals of scouting to the
tens of thousands of scouts, scouters, and visitors from this country as
well as dozens of others.  Having been SPL of my contingent in '93 I
always looked forward to the smiling, caring faces of the staff, my
leaders, and the rest of my troop.  So always remember that the Jambo. 
is on big stage, and a bad remark, a foul comment, or anything negative
about the institution of scouting can devastate the purpose of Scouting,
THE CHILDREN OF TODAY, AND THE LEADERS OF TOMORROW.

Yours in Scouting, 
Mike Fedelem
<Fedelemj@flagler.edu>

From owner-jambo97@freke.hoplite.org  Mon Nov 18 15:37:53 1996
Return-Path: owner-jambo97@freke.hoplite.org
Received: from playpen.internex.net (playpen.InterNex.Net [199.2.13.17]) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id PAA01713 for <mfbowman@capaccess.org>; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 15:37:53 -0500
Received: from freke.hoplite.org ([205.158.197.130])
          by playpen.internex.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-11030)
          with ESMTP id AAB1715; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 12:34:05 -0800
Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by freke.hoplite.org (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id MAA17675; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 12:33:57 -0800 (PST)
Received: (from daemon@localhost) by freke.hoplite.org (8.7.5/8.7.5) id MAA17669 for jambo97-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 12:33:55 -0800 (PST)
To: jambo97@hoplite.org (jambo97@hoplite.org)
Subject: JAMBO97 Jambo Experience
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 96 20:41:59 GMT
Message-ID: <M.111896.124159.70@alpha.softcom.net>
From: scouter@inreach.com (Dave Tracewell)
X-Mailer: Quarterdeck Message Center [1.0]
Errors-To: owner-jambo97@hoplite.org
Precedence: bulk
Reply-To: jambo97@hoplite.org
Status: RO
X-Status: 

Even today it is hard for me to relate these feelings, but I say this in hopes 
that it will help others to understand the magitude and scope of the Jamboree 
experience.

In 1989 I was fortunate enough to be an Asst. SM for our Council's Jamboree 
Troop and go there with my (then) 14 year old son. It was a financial burdon on 
us, and being self employed at the time, tough to take off all of the time 
necessary for the event, but with the help of fundrasing efforts, family and 
prayer, we made it work and it was (for the most part)a wonderful experience.

What happened during the third day of the Jambo (8th day of the tour) though, 
took me completely by surprise. I was coming back from one of the trading posts 
and happen to see one of the Scouts laying down on a lawn chair a ways from our 
camp. This happened to be a Scout that I was close to.. one of my sons best 
friends. (He was a large 15 year old boy who was a CIT at summer camp and an 
honor student at school) He was one of the "good ones" we all want our Scouts 
to be like. Well, as I approached him, I noticed he'd been crying. I, of 
course, asked what was wrong and got the "shoulder thing". Evidently (after 
talking/counceling for about an hour) he was homesick. He had been to summer 
camp with his troop, saw his family 1 day, then went back as a CIT for a week, 
saw them 2 days and then left for two weeks for Jamboree. It got to him. I was 
able to talk him out of the depression, and my son came by and took him to the 
phones where he called home. This was one of the kids I DIDN'T think we would 
have a problem with, and he told me (about a year later) that he was actually 
considering suicide at that time. (That shook me up). When I asked if he 
thought the Jamboree Experience was worthwhile, he said yes... it was one of 
the greatist experiences of his life. I too had felt homesick for my wife and 
two girls while I was there, memories I can still feel to this day.
 
Jamboree is a hugh event that takes a lot of planning, costs a lot of money, 
and can and will be stressful at times. It will not only effect the Scouts, but 
the adult leaders and their families as well. Is it worth it? Well, I went back 
in 93, and I'm going back in 97.... YES! As the young man said, it is one of 
the greatist experiences of your life!
----
Dave Tracewell         
P.O. Box 2242          Tokay District Commissioner
Lodi, CA  95241-2242   Post Advisor: Computer Post 2000
                       Scouter et All - Forty-Niner Cncl.
                       Vigil Honor - SUMI Lodge # 342
                       and I used to be a Bobwhite...

Webmaster: Forty-Niner Council - Boy Scouts of America
           http://www.inreach.com/scouter

e-mail:    scouter@inreach.com, dave@scouter.com, or tracewell@ccmall.com

SysOp:     The Starbase International BBS - (209) 339-0220
              "The Largest Scouting BBS in the World"

ScoutNet   71:100/0 North American Hub/Country Coordinator
FidoNet    1:208/302