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In a message dated 11/15/97 1:56:40 AM, mfbowman@CAPACCESS.ORG wrote:

<<For the belt loops, a Cub doesn't have to be a member of an existing
sports team. 

We run into all types of leadership with volunteers.  Some good, some not
as good as we would like.  Some get too enthralled with getting badges
passed out and some never light the fire under a kid.  In either case we
can always nudge 'em along to realizing that advancement works when we
really motivate a boy to do his best and give him the opportunity to try.

Sounds like you are doing a good job of this with your boys. No doubt
they'll have a rich experience.

Mike>>

Hello,

Mike makes some extremely good points.  I didn't have a book here to check
the requirements. but I was noting that many boys play a team sport for at
least a game or two in gym at school.  From what Mike is saying, that would
and should count.

The purposes of advancement in Cub Scouting and Boy Scouting are similar, but
the standards are, of course, very different.  Cub Scouting encourages boys
to try new things and is less prone to say that a boy has "failed" a
particular requirement, which would mean trying again to meet the particular
objective standard of performance.

If a boy hasn't met the requirements for a particular Cub Scout advancement,
the reason is more likely with the person doing the approving rather than
with the boy.  Is there perhaps an opportunity for a training session with
parents so they can do a better job of working with their sons?

And I also agree with Mike that it sounds as if you are doing an excellent
job and your boys are having a fine experience.

Neil Lupton