From <@tcuavm.is.tcu.edu:owner-scouts-l@TCUBVM.IS.TCU.EDU> Wed Apr 22 22:25:51 1998 Return-Path: <@tcuavm.is.tcu.edu:owner-scouts-l@TCUBVM.IS.TCU.EDU> Received: from tcuavm.is.tcu.edu (TCUAVM.IS.TCU.EDU [138.237.128.148]) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id WAA06936 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 22:25:51 -0400 Received: from TCUBVM.IS.TCU.EDU by tcuavm.is.tcu.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 2199; Wed, 22 Apr 98 21:17:47 CDT Received: from TCUBVM.IS.TCU.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@TCUBVM) by TCUBVM.IS.TCU.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 0379; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 21:17:54 -0500 Received: from TCUBVM.IS.TCU.EDU by TCUBVM.IS.TCU.EDU (LISTSERV release 1.8b) with NJE id 0375 for SCOUTS-L@TCUBVM.IS.TCU.EDU; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 21:17:13 -0500 Received: from TCUBVM (NJE origin SMTP@TCUBVM) by TCUBVM.IS.TCU.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 0374; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 21:17:11 -0500 Received: from camel14.mindspring.com by tcubvm.is.tcu.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 22 Apr 98 21:16:55 CDT Received: from default (pool-207-205-195-113.wlhm.grid.net [207.205.195.113]) by camel14.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA12945; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 22:16:34 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: mcgarrah@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980422221325.007f3e20@pop.mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 22:13:25 -0400 Reply-To: "Craig R. McGarrah" Sender: Scouts-L Youth Group List From: "Craig R. McGarrah" Subject: Re: What makes a good Cubmaster? X-To: Kim Moye , bsa-florida-net@scouter.com, scouts-umc@home.ease.lsoft.com To: Multiple recipients of list SCOUTS-L In-Reply-To: <199804211328.IAA19380@sun2177.spd.dsccc.com> Status: RO X-Status: Even though I have been a Cubmaster for 4 years now, I don't consider myself anywhere near an expert, but I want to try to help. One suggestion before I start is you not make it look like you need to be a God-like figure to be a good Cubmaster. It would be very easy for you to write a book on this subject and intimidate all new cubmasters. Having said that, I'm going to blow my advice out of the water and start ramblin'! :) At 08:28 AM 4/21/98 -0500, Kim Moye wrote: >What do you see the job as being? In no particular order: 1. Showman -- Coordinate FUN Pack meetings that accomplish all the goals (advancement, teach, announce, etc.) in a timely fashion. Being a cheerleader for scouting is also important, even outside the pack meeting. It is all a matter of attitude. If you badmouth scouting or complain about various people or situations, scouting will not appear to be that much fun. You, more than anyone else, represent scouting in the eyes of the scouts, parents, and other leaders. You need to keep that in mind. 2. Delegator -- not purely, but many packs rely on the cubmaster to to just about everything. While he/she may be super and can handle it, a good Cubmaster will always be trying to develop helpers by delegating where appropriate. I know this is easier said than done but this gets more families personally involved in the pack and provides better long-term stability for the unit. 3. Politician -- There has to be a better word than Politician to describe what I am trying to say, but I can't think of one now. Deal with problems (and they will occur) in a positive and upbeat manor. Personalities are very unique and clashes do occur between dens, within dens, with the sponsor, with the schools you recruit from, etc. You need to be the calming influence, but deal with the situation, don't fluff it off. This is a skill that is tough to teach. > >What do you like that the Cubmaster does? Cares. About the kids, the parents, the activities, etc. > >What can the Cubmaster do better? I always ask this question of myself and now that I think of it, maybe asking that question is a good sign. Pack Meetings -- do not do the same old thing year after year. Even if it is new for the kids, it isn't for you and some of the parents and it will show. You should have as much fun as you want them to. -- Delegate -- Never consider yourself fully trained and always be on the lookout for ideas. The scout materials are good, but some of the best ideas come from the most unlikely places. Use your resources, then find new ones. > >What traits should a Cubmaster possess? > In addition to what I've already mentioned (especially caring), -- The ability to work well with others. -- A love for kids and a willingness to listen to them. -- The ability to plan ahead (it's funny, I can be the ultimate procrastinator at home, but with the scouts I am always thinking several months ahead. I am already thinking about fall recruiting season!). -- The ability to set goals and lead an organization to them. I know this is vague, but every unit can improve. Some talk a lot, some whine, but a cubmaster must be a doer. Not by himself, but by leading the "team." -- Character. I know this is a very generic term, but do you like being with the cubmaster and do you trust him/her? How about the kids? You now see why I made the comment before I started. What I described is the "Ultimate Cubmaster." I wish it described me. When all is said and done, you want someone who cares enough to do his/her best to do his/her duty to the Pack and to the kids in it; to help them at all times and to obey the laws of good common sense! Wow. Did I just write that? Yours in Scouting, Craig McGarrah Cubmaster -- Pack 132, Palm Beach Gardens, FL mcgarrah@mindspring.com > >Thanks again for your help! >kim moye >cubmaster/pack 308/allen tx >cub rt commish/arrowhead district/circle 10 council > From <@tcuavm.is.tcu.edu:owner-scouts-l@TCUBVM.IS.TCU.EDU> Thu Apr 23 12:32:55 1998 Return-Path: <@tcuavm.is.tcu.edu:owner-scouts-l@TCUBVM.IS.TCU.EDU> Received: from tcuavm.is.tcu.edu (TCUAVM.IS.TCU.EDU [138.237.128.148]) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id MAA03049 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 12:32:55 -0400 Received: from TCUBVM.IS.TCU.EDU by tcuavm.is.tcu.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 2787; Thu, 23 Apr 98 11:24:24 CDT Received: from TCUBVM.IS.TCU.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@TCUBVM) by TCUBVM.IS.TCU.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 3951; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 11:24:36 -0500 Received: from TCUBVM.IS.TCU.EDU by TCUBVM.IS.TCU.EDU (LISTSERV release 1.8b) with NJE id 3940 for SCOUTS-L@TCUBVM.IS.TCU.EDU; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 11:23:21 -0500 Received: from TCUBVM (NJE origin SMTP@TCUBVM) by TCUBVM.IS.TCU.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 3938; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 11:23:05 -0500 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com by tcubvm.is.tcu.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 23 Apr 98 11:22:22 CDT Received: from GMarmet@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv14.1) id IKSHa06269; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 12:21:13 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 61 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 12:21:13 EDT Reply-To: GMarmet Sender: Scouts-L Youth Group List From: GMarmet Subject: Re: What makes a good Cubmaster X-To: stagis@MEGAHITS.COM To: Multiple recipients of list SCOUTS-L Status: RO X-Status: In a message dated 98-04-23 10:43:43 EDT, stagis@MEGAHITS.COM writes: << jacobi.PARC@XEROX.COM wrote: > >What makes a good Cubmaster > >> Another thought, echoing the previous, one that I had to remember: Don't be afraid to look silly. Don't be afraid to do goofy things, you would not otherwise do. Don't be afraid to sing loudly. Don't be afraid to laugh and to have fun. Don't be afraid to be laughed at. Being Cubmaster can be the most enjoyable job in Scouting. But it is not dignified. Yours in Scouting, G. John Marmet an ex-7 year Cubmaster From <@tcuavm.is.tcu.edu:owner-scouts-l@TCUBVM.IS.TCU.EDU> Thu Apr 23 10:38:29 1998 Return-Path: <@tcuavm.is.tcu.edu:owner-scouts-l@TCUBVM.IS.TCU.EDU> Received: from tcuavm.is.tcu.edu (TCUAVM.IS.TCU.EDU [138.237.128.148]) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id KAA05490 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 10:38:29 -0400 Received: from TCUBVM.IS.TCU.EDU by tcuavm.is.tcu.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 2640; Thu, 23 Apr 98 09:30:15 CDT Received: from TCUBVM.IS.TCU.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@TCUBVM) by TCUBVM.IS.TCU.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 3331; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 09:30:24 -0500 Received: from TCUBVM.IS.TCU.EDU by TCUBVM.IS.TCU.EDU (LISTSERV release 1.8b) with NJE id 3326 for SCOUTS-L@TCUBVM.IS.TCU.EDU; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 09:29:36 -0500 Received: from TCUBVM (NJE origin SMTP@TCUBVM) by TCUBVM.IS.TCU.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 3325; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 09:29:35 -0500 Received: from megahits.com by tcubvm.is.tcu.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 23 Apr 98 09:28:50 CDT Received: from megahits.com [207.76.74.109] by megahits.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-4.04) id A040C94009E; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 10:29:20 EST X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <98Apr22.092555pdt."53123(4)"@alpha.xerox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <353F4F27.D943AEB4@megahits.com> Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 10:24:39 -0400 Reply-To: Rob Sender: Scouts-L Youth Group List From: Rob Subject: Re: What makes a good Cubmaster X-To: jacobi.PARC@XEROX.COM To: Multiple recipients of list SCOUTS-L Status: RO X-Status: I agree entirely jacobi wrote: I kept it simplier myself, though: 1. The idea is for the kids to have FUN while advancing. Loud, obnoxious pack meetings just about guarantee that as long as control is maintained. I DID, just once, shut down a pack meeting when the parents sat there shooting the breeze while the kids went out of control. 2. The parents have to have fun, too. They become friends over the years. Non-kid get-togethers foster this. Good luck :) jacobi.PARC@XEROX.COM wrote: > >What makes a good Cubmaster > > Run, do not walk, and get the "Cub Scout Leader Book". > There is a chapter about leadership. The last page > in that chapter is a questionnaire titled > "How Do I rate as an Effective Leader" > > Chris > > past cubmaster > http://www.PacificSkylineCouncil.org/scouting/scouter.html