From sharon@asksharon.com Thu Mar 5 01:47:59 1998 Return-Path: sharon@asksharon.com Received: from nexus.idirect.com (nexus.idirect.com [207.136.80.55]) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id BAA26053 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:47:59 -0500 Received: from asksharon.com (oshawappp11.idirect.com [207.136.101.11]) by nexus.idirect.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id BAA27855 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:40:29 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <34FE49F6.50065958@asksharon.com> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 01:45:10 -0500 From: Sharon Organization: web designs by SHARON X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Michael F. Bowman" Subject: Re: Your Help Requested References: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------3E237EA72A00EB58F1B41C0B" Status: RO X-Status: A This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------3E237EA72A00EB58F1B41C0B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Michael! I have been sitting here and getting these letters since Saturday afternoon. I never realized what babies people can be, however, let me tell you what you are in for. A friend and co-worker of mine (who is also on this list) took the time on Saturday to send an individual message to each person on the list (I'm sure you got the message as well.) What she got in return were letters swearing at her and threatening her as well. I don't know what the solution is - but if this business continues much longer, I WILL send every participant in this farce to my ISP, and something very serious will happen to each of them. I have gotten 3 and 4 e-mails from each of these clowns, and "I" for one am fed up with it. Some kid (smart too, because HIS e-mail address is fake, so he gets none of the rest of the spam that we have had to put up with) sent out a letter. If it had died there, lettleharm would have been done. Maybe you can clue me in here... What are these other jerks trying to accomplish??? Sharon -- AskSharon Inc. http://www.asksharon.com/ For web site design, hosting, interactive resumes, and HTML help. YOUR COMPLETE INTERNET SOLUTION!!! JUST FOR FUN VISIT: Margot (the singing) Wonderdog http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/1312 FOR HOLIDAY MAGIC GO SEE: Jazzy's Wonderland http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/Dell/1961/ --------------3E237EA72A00EB58F1B41C0B Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Sharon Ostroff Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: Sharon Ostroff n: Ostroff;Sharon org: web designs by SHARON adr: ;;;Oshawa;Ontario;;Canada email;internet: sharon@asksharon.com title: Chief Cook and Bottle Washer tel;work: (905) 404-8681 tel;fax: (905) 404-8245 note: If you want a professional web site, hire web designs by SHARON. We will do the job WELL, and the price will AMAZE you! x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: FALSE version: 2.1 end: vcard --------------3E237EA72A00EB58F1B41C0B-- From tlbritt@gte.net Thu Mar 5 00:42:25 1998 Return-Path: tlbritt@gte.net Received: from smtp2.mailsrvcs.net (smtp2.gte.net [207.115.153.31]) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id AAA20516 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 00:42:25 -0500 Received: from tony (1Cust139.tnt1.durham.nc.da.uu.net [153.37.236.139]) by smtp2.mailsrvcs.net with SMTP id XAA21374 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 23:34:38 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <34FE3716.4202@gte.net> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 00:24:38 -0500 From: Tony Britt Reply-To: tbritt@nando.net Organization: Nando Sportserver X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Michael F. Bowman" Subject: Re: Your Help Please References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO X-Status: Thanks for your note. From Mailer-Daemon@CapAccess.org Thu Mar 5 01:15:34 1998 Return-Path: Mailer-Daemon@CapAccess.org Received: from mail.comet.net (mail.comet.net [205.197.102.27]) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id BAA23880 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:15:34 -0500 To: mfbowman@CapAccess.org From: RLC@CapAccess.org, Richard Howard Smith (auto reply) In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Your Help Requested Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:08:46 -0500 Message-ID: <19980305060846339.AAA176@mail.comet.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO X-Status: My new e-mail address is rh_smith@rlc.net. From rss@aros.net Thu Mar 5 01:27:16 1998 Return-Path: rss@aros.net Received: from mars.aros.net (mars.aros.net [207.173.16.20]) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id BAA24789 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:27:16 -0500 From: rss@aros.net Received: from healer (dm4-20.slc.aros.net [207.173.25.165]) by mars.aros.net (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id XAA24263 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 23:16:29 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199803050616.XAA24263@mars.aros.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is Organization: A Natural Way To: "Michael F. Bowman" Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 23:14:13 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Your Help Requested Reply-to: rss@aros.net X-Confirm-Reading-To: rss@aros.net X-pmrqc: 1 Return-receipt-to: rss@aros.net Priority: normal In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) Status: RO X-Status: Thank you! Finally some rationality related to this affair. Dr. Randall Scripter (A Natural Way) http://www.anaturalway.com Helping People get Healthy Naturally From david@note.com Thu Mar 5 01:44:08 1998 Return-Path: david@note.com Received: from unix1.worldlynx.net (root@unix1.worldlynx.net [198.7.143.13]) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id BAA25730 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:44:08 -0500 Received: from voyager (ppp-phila-038.worldlynx.net [198.7.150.38]) by unix1.worldlynx.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA23127 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:35:36 -0500 Message-Id: <199803050635.BAA23127@unix1.worldlynx.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "David Beroff" To: "Michael F. Bowman" Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:33:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Your Help Requested Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Status: RO X-Status: Thank goodness *someone* has taken intelligent action. No response necessary. Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 00:57:52 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael F. Bowman" To: sue@amaze.demon.co.uk, sullivan@csn.com, sunycher@gate.net, superstar2@earthlink.net, supervisor@market-tek.com, support@4dcomm.com, support@alaska.net, support@amaonline.com, support@emf.net, support@erinet.com, support@htmlvalidator.com, support@note.com, support@osb.net, support@scoutnet.org.uk, support@tagus.com, support@tiac.net, susanlor@tiac.net, suzi@mshaley.demon.co.uk, sveto@sunlink.net, svsa34a@prodigy.com, svwhite@erols.com, sweetnam@inlink.com, swenner@sendit.sendit.nodak.edu, swolman@geocities.com, swrules@hotmail.com, swsn@iname.com, symon.tsui@ebu.ericsson.com, talltex@ix.netcom.com, tamworthguides@geocities.com Subject: Your Help Requested Each of you has received numerous messages under the subject "Scouting Website" along with a long list of addressees. Many have felt compelled to respond to the entire list of addressees out of concern, frustration, or even anger. Each response has perpetuated the problem of each of us receiving numerous huge e-mails clogging up our e-mail systems. The only way to stop this nonesense is for all of us to quit responding to the entire list and let this thing die. PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND TO ANY POSTING WITH THE SUBJECT SCOUTING WEBSITE or any related topic that has resulted from these mailings. If you see a huge list of addressees respond only to the person who originated the posting. The rest of the folks on the list are victims too and do not need to be further victimized. One of the recipients of the list has suggested reporting everyone on the list as a spammer out of frustration. This is ill-advised and will make the problem worse. The people on the address list are victims and not spammers. Reporting them as spammers is a defamation and a falsehood and may create legal liability on the part of the person making such a false report. Please recognize that a lot of folks are new to the Internet and sometimes do things that are not particularly well thought-out as was the case with the original author here. No doubt the consequences of his posting has generated unintended consequences that should have been anticipated, but were not. Please do not fall into the same trap by reacting to the posting by generating more e-mail on the subject. NOTE: This e-mail is being sent to each addressee on the list that I was a part of (I apologize in advance if you receive more than one copy - this may happen if you have more than one address on the original list that was sent). However, it is only being sent to a few addressees at a time in small address groups. This is to prevent further mass mailings. Once this e-mail has been sent I am deleting the address group from my computer. I would ask that you do the same. Michael F. Bowman Speaking in | mfbowman@scouter.com netcommish@aol.com the Scouting | The NetCommish http://members.aol.com/netcommish Spirit from | Professor Beaver Online - http://usscouts.org/profbvr/ Alexandria, VA| U.S. Scouting Service Project - http://usscouts.org From ajcaz@bit-net.com Thu Mar 5 02:07:19 1998 Return-Path: ajcaz@bit-net.com Received: from dns.bit-net.com (dns.bit-net.com [207.51.120.1]) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id CAA27440 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 02:07:19 -0500 Received: from Pajcaz.jlc.net (p66.nashua.bit-net.com [208.146.138.66]) by dns.bit-net.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA12457 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:59:47 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <34FE4FD3.5A8E@bit-net.com> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 02:10:11 -0500 From: Ajcaz X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Michael F. Bowman" Subject: Re: Your Help Requested References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO X-Status: A Well said! I wish these things would end. I emailed back the address from the first letter and received it back. I didn't know what to do. Amy Caswell Committee Chair Pack 421 Milford, NH Michael F. Bowman wrote: > > Each of you has received numerous messages under the subject "Scouting > Website" along with a long list of addressees. Many have felt compelled > to respond to the entire list of addressees out of concern, frustration, > or even anger. Each response has perpetuated the problem of each of us > receiving numerous huge e-mails clogging up our e-mail systems. The only > way to stop this nonesense is for all of us to quit responding to the > entire list and let this thing die. > > PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND TO ANY POSTING WITH THE SUBJECT SCOUTING WEBSITE or > any related topic that has resulted from these mailings. > > If you see a huge list of addressees respond only to the person who > originated the posting. The rest of the folks on the list are victims too > and do not need to be further victimized. > > One of the recipients of the list has suggested reporting everyone on the > list as a spammer out of frustration. This is ill-advised and will make > the problem worse. The people on the address list are victims and not > spammers. Reporting them as spammers is a defamation and a falsehood and > may create legal liability on the part of the person making such a false > report. > > Please recognize that a lot of folks are new to the Internet and > sometimes do things that are not particularly well thought-out as was the > case with the original author here. No doubt the consequences of his > posting has generated unintended consequences that should have been > anticipated, but were not. Please do not fall into the same trap by > reacting to the posting by generating more e-mail on the subject. > > NOTE: This e-mail is being sent to each addressee on the list that I was > a part of (I apologize in advance if you receive more than one copy - > this may happen if you have more than one address on the original list > that was sent). However, it is only being sent to a few addressees at a > time in small address groups. This is to prevent further mass mailings. > Once this e-mail has been sent I am deleting the address group from my > computer. I would ask that you do the same. > > Michael F. Bowman > > Speaking in | mfbowman@scouter.com netcommish@aol.com > the Scouting | The NetCommish http://members.aol.com/netcommish > Spirit from | Professor Beaver Online - http://usscouts.org/profbvr/ > Alexandria, VA| U.S. Scouting Service Project - http://usscouts.org From raj@bresnanlink.net Thu Mar 5 01:51:59 1998 Return-Path: raj@bresnanlink.net Received: from zeus.bresnan.net (www.up.bresnan.net [206.25.127.39]) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id BAA26274 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:51:59 -0500 Received: from bresnanlink.net (000es169.up.bresnan.net [208.154.18.169]) by zeus.bresnan.net (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with ESMTP id AAA15990 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:33:40 -0500 Message-ID: <34FE494D.2257660C@bresnanlink.net> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 01:42:21 -0500 From: Rod Johnson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Michael F. Bowman" Subject: Thanks Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------85CF34050BB9C7207ACD9C93" Status: RO X-Status: A --------------85CF34050BB9C7207ACD9C93 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Mike, Thank you for your comments.... This whole thing has been very aggravating... I'm glad that you are taking upon yourself to hopefully end this deluge of e-mail for everyone concerned.... I am quite curious as to how this originated. I realized after the 1st 24 hours what was happening, and just continued to delete all the messages... The Reply button was the worst of the nightmare... only complicating things further... It was easy to see how everyone's good intention to have their name removed was futile due to the fact that they had no idea to whom they were even addressing. I too am relatively new to the internet but it was obvious that everyone on the copy list were victims... What was confusing to everyone is all the different senders.... I guess what I am curious about is not the originator, his identity is immaterial at this point as I am quite sure that this thing is dead already...( Your message was one of only two that I received today....) Whew!... Thank God!.... But how did he acquire the names on the list. Some of these names had nothing to due with Scouting......??? Thank you again for making the round-up and hopefully the resolve of this entire fiasco... Rod Johnson Charter Rep. Pack 471 Gladstone, Michigan --------------85CF34050BB9C7207ACD9C93 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Mike,

     Thank you for your comments.... This whole thing has been very aggravating... I'm glad that you are taking upon yourself to hopefully end this deluge of e-mail for everyone concerned.... I am quite curious as to how this originated.
     I realized after the 1st 24 hours what was happening, and just continued to delete all the messages... The Reply button was the worst of the nightmare... only complicating things further... It was easy to see how everyone's good intention to have their name removed was futile due to the fact that they had no idea to whom they were even addressing.  I too am relatively new to the internet but it was obvious that everyone on the copy list were victims... What was confusing to everyone is all the different senders....
     I guess what I am curious about is not the originator, his identity is immaterial at this point as I am quite sure that this thing is dead already...( Your message was one of only two that I received today....) Whew!... Thank God!.... But how did he acquire the names on the list.  Some of these names had nothing to due with Scouting......???
    Thank you again for making the round-up and hopefully the resolve of this entire fiasco...

Rod Johnson
Charter Rep.
Pack 471
Gladstone, Michigan --------------85CF34050BB9C7207ACD9C93-- From sharon@asksharon.com Thu Mar 5 02:14:18 1998 Return-Path: sharon@asksharon.com Received: from nexus.idirect.com (nexus.idirect.com [207.136.80.55]) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id CAA27869 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 02:14:18 -0500 Received: from asksharon.com (oshawappp11.idirect.com [207.136.101.11]) by nexus.idirect.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id CAA17127 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 02:06:48 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <34FE5021.EB176C50@asksharon.com> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 02:11:29 -0500 From: Sharon Organization: web designs by SHARON X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Michael F. Bowman" Subject: Re: Your Help Requested References: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------7A2E3D4FB4B6C8BD3F553095" Status: RO X-Status: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------7A2E3D4FB4B6C8BD3F553095 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You are a lot more optimistic than I. Last time (and the only other time) this happened to me it took a police officer and all of his clout (getting a pile of people suspended from their on-line service included) before it came to an end. But I will wait and see. If it continues much longer, I WILL report each of them (those that sent "replies".) Maybe if word gets around that people are doing something about these kinds of things they will stop. Sharon -- AskSharon Inc. http://www.asksharon.com/ For web site design, hosting, interactive resumes, and HTML help. YOUR COMPLETE INTERNET SOLUTION!!! JUST FOR FUN VISIT: Margot (the singing) Wonderdog http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/1312 FOR HOLIDAY MAGIC GO SEE: Jazzy's Wonderland http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/Dell/1961/ --------------7A2E3D4FB4B6C8BD3F553095 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Sharon Ostroff Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: Sharon Ostroff n: Ostroff;Sharon org: web designs by SHARON adr: ;;;Oshawa;Ontario;;Canada email;internet: sharon@asksharon.com title: Chief Cook and Bottle Washer tel;work: (905) 404-8681 tel;fax: (905) 404-8245 note: If you want a professional web site, hire web designs by SHARON. We will do the job WELL, and the price will AMAZE you! x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: FALSE version: 2.1 end: vcard --------------7A2E3D4FB4B6C8BD3F553095-- From paslay@earthlink.net Thu Mar 5 02:16:42 1998 Return-Path: paslay@earthlink.net Received: from denmark.it.earthlink.net (denmark-c.it.earthlink.net [204.119.177.22]) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id CAA28266 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 02:16:42 -0500 Received: from earthlink.net (paslay@pool017-max4.la-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net [207.217.4.17]) by denmark.it.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA09421 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 23:09:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <34FDDF63.B873C571@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 23:10:27 +0000 From: Monica Reply-To: paslay@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Michael F. Bowman" Subject: Re: Your Help Requested References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO X-Status: Thank you for you letter. I appreciat you taking the time to write and explain some things. I commend you with this. Have a good day. Monica From mfbowman@CapAccess.org Thu Mar 5 02:07:50 1998 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 02:07:49 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael F. Bowman" To: Sharon Subject: Re: Your Help Requested In-Reply-To: <34FE49F6.50065958@asksharon.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Sharon, Most of the people who responded were probably unaware that they were repeating the offense. Many e-mail programs strip off the headers and the person getting the e-mail only sees the message. Only after they send the message will they know that they have sent it out to everyone else. Most of those programs can be configured to allow headers, but many of the folks are new and don't know how or haven't bothered to find out how. What we are dealing with is a lot folks that are new and or inexperienced in the ways of the net. Hopefully this will soon come to a stop. Mike Speaking in | mfbowman@scouter.com netcommish@aol.com the Scouting | The NetCommish http://members.aol.com/netcommish Spirit from | Professor Beaver Online - http://usscouts.org/profbvr/ Alexandria, VA| U.S. Scouting Service Project - http://usscouts.org From mfbowman@CapAccess.org Thu Mar 5 02:11:14 1998 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 02:11:13 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael F. Bowman" To: Ajcaz Subject: Re: Your Help Requested In-Reply-To: <34FE4FD3.5A8E@bit-net.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Amy, Hopefully the mailing will help calm things down. The original sender's account has been closed to prevent further abuse. This may be why your message was returned. If you get more messages, just delete 'em and in a short time I'm sure this will all settle down. Mike Speaking in | mfbowman@scouter.com netcommish@aol.com the Scouting | The NetCommish http://members.aol.com/netcommish Spirit from | Professor Beaver Online - http://usscouts.org/profbvr/ Alexandria, VA| U.S. Scouting Service Project - http://usscouts.org From mfbowman@CapAccess.org Thu Mar 5 02:14:14 1998 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 02:14:13 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael F. Bowman" To: Rod Johnson Subject: Re: Thanks In-Reply-To: <34FE494D.2257660C@bresnanlink.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Rod, Most of the people who responded were probably unaware that they were repeating the offense. Many e-mail programs strip off the headers and the person getting the e-mail only sees the message. Only after they send the message will they know that they have sent it out to everyone else. Most of those programs can be configured to allow headers, but many of the folks are new and don't know how or haven't bothered to find out how. What we are dealing with is a lot folks that are new and or inexperienced in the ways of the net. I suspect that the originator of this fiasco was using a web-bot program to collect addresses of what he thought were Scouters from Scouting websites and usenet groups. Along the way the bot also came up with lots of other addresses of hosts and advertisers making it a mess. Hopefully this will soon come to a stop. Mike Speaking in | mfbowman@scouter.com netcommish@aol.com the Scouting | The NetCommish http://members.aol.com/netcommish Spirit from | Professor Beaver Online - http://usscouts.org/profbvr/ Alexandria, VA| U.S. Scouting Service Project - http://usscouts.org From RazorFace@bigfoot.com Thu Mar 5 08:18:15 1998 Return-Path: RazorFace@bigfoot.com Received: from earth.sunlink.net (root@earth.sunlink.net [204.170.191.1]) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id IAA20009 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:18:15 -0500 Received: from bigfoot.com (m306.sunlink.net [204.170.188.70]) by earth.sunlink.net (1.11.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA24970 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:10:40 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <34FEA445.17B97F6@bigfoot.com> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 08:10:29 -0500 From: RazorFace Reply-To: RazorFace@bigfoot.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Michael F. Bowman" Subject: Re: Your Help Requested References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO X-Status: Michael, Thanks for writing. It is a nuisance what they did. I don't know who started the spam but I don't like it either. I have not been responding to them, just deleting them when I get them. Thanks Sam Vetovich Michael F. Bowman wrote: > > Each of you has received numerous messages under the subject "Scouting > Website" along with a long list of addressees. Many have felt compelled > to respond to the entire list of addressees out of concern, frustration, > or even anger. Each response has perpetuated the problem of each of us > receiving numerous huge e-mails clogging up our e-mail systems. The only > way to stop this nonesense is for all of us to quit responding to the > entire list and let this thing die. > > PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND TO ANY POSTING WITH THE SUBJECT SCOUTING WEBSITE or > any related topic that has resulted from these mailings. > > If you see a huge list of addressees respond only to the person who > originated the posting. The rest of the folks on the list are victims too > and do not need to be further victimized. > > One of the recipients of the list has suggested reporting everyone on the > list as a spammer out of frustration. This is ill-advised and will make > the problem worse. The people on the address list are victims and not > spammers. Reporting them as spammers is a defamation and a falsehood and > may create legal liability on the part of the person making such a false > report. > > Please recognize that a lot of folks are new to the Internet and > sometimes do things that are not particularly well thought-out as was the > case with the original author here. No doubt the consequences of his > posting has generated unintended consequences that should have been > anticipated, but were not. Please do not fall into the same trap by > reacting to the posting by generating more e-mail on the subject. > > NOTE: This e-mail is being sent to each addressee on the list that I was > a part of (I apologize in advance if you receive more than one copy - > this may happen if you have more than one address on the original list > that was sent). However, it is only being sent to a few addressees at a > time in small address groups. This is to prevent further mass mailings. > Once this e-mail has been sent I am deleting the address group from my > computer. I would ask that you do the same. > > Michael F. Bowman > > Speaking in | mfbowman@scouter.com netcommish@aol.com > the Scouting | The NetCommish http://members.aol.com/netcommish > Spirit from | Professor Beaver Online - http://usscouts.org/profbvr/ > Alexandria, VA| U.S. Scouting Service Project - http://usscouts.org -- ******************************************************** Check out "The Back Bay" the unofficial home page of Lobo. http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Studio/6102/ Check out my home pages: http://www.sunlink.net/~sveto/ From crump@csranet.com Thu Mar 5 08:43:52 1998 Return-Path: crump@csranet.com Received: from csra2.csranet.com (csra2.csranet.com [199.249.160.129]) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id IAA25623 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:43:52 -0500 Received: from crump (line078.csranet.com [199.249.160.78]) by csra2.csranet.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA06644 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:57:45 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803051357.IAA06644@csra2.csranet.com> From: "crump" To: "Michael F. Bowman" Subject: Re: Your Help Requested Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:33:59 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO X-Status: Thanx. I have already deleted all e-mails from this subject. I was getting pretty angry about the amount of e-mail I was recieving, and the content. From spedding_ec@wvwc.edu Thu Mar 5 08:49:12 1998 Return-Path: spedding_ec@wvwc.edu Received: from mars.wvwc.edu (mail.wvwc.edu [192.101.80.18]) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id IAA26992 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:49:12 -0500 Received: from SPEDDING_EC (SPEDDING_EC [10.1.100.240]) by mars.wvwc.edu (NTMail 3.02.13) with ESMTP id pa495341 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:41:59 -0500 From: "Elizabeth Spedding" To: "Michael F. Bowman" Subject: Re: Your Help Please Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:46:02 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <13415943606630@wvwc.edu> Status: RO X-Status: Thank you very much. I think everyone really needed this e mail. ---------- From: Michael F. Bowman To: sjm@mirnet.com; skaberli@cris.com; skadvent@iea.com; skahan@ix.netcom.com; skcsdc@sprynet.com; skeel@amaonline.com; skeel@homemail.com; skip@northstar.k12.ak.us; slapy98@cleannet.net; sldaku@sunlink.net; slick442@webtv.net; slomey@juno.com; slt13@juno.com; slubin@geocities.com; smack@marktel.com; smarshal@crown.icongrp.com; smaster@zebra.net; smmoores@hotmail.com; smom@geocities.com; smorgan@on-net.net; smorris@arkansasusa.com; smshapi@sprynet.com; snv89@hotmail.com; soc-cusagc-chairman@lists.cam.ac.uk; soc-cusagc-webadmin@lists.cam.ac.uk; sojoin@inlink.com; solberg@bigo.net; solutions@mcallister.com; solutions@tetrion.com; songoku12@hotmail.com; songs@macscouter.com; sorin@geocities.com; soucyp@gwi.net; soup666@webtv.net; sousak@whidbey.net; spa@msen.com; spanier@world.net.att.net; spcronin@otherside.com; spedding_ec@wvwc.edu; speirs@interlog.com Subject: Your Help Please Date: Thursday, March 05, 1998 12:31 AM Each of you has received numerous messages under the subject "Scouting Website" along with a long list of addressees. Many have felt compelled to respond to the entire list of addressees out of concern, frustration, or even anger. Each response has perpetuated the problem of each of us receiving numerous huge e-mails clogging up our e-mail systems. The only way to stop this nonesense is for all of us to quit responding to the entire list and let this thing die. PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND TO ANY POSTING WITH THE SUBJECT SCOUTING WEBSITE or any related topic that has resulted from these mailings. If you see a huge list of addressees respond only to the person who originated the posting. The rest of the folks on the list are victims too and do not need to be further victimized. One of the recipients of the list has suggested reporting everyone on the list as a spammer out of frustration. This is ill-advised and will make the problem worse. The people on the address list are victims and not spammers. Reporting them as spammers is a defamation and a falsehood and may create legal liability on the part of the person making such a false report. Please recognize that a lot of folks are new to the Internet and sometimes do things that are not particularly well thought-out as was the case with the original author here. No doubt the consequences of his posting has generated unintended consequences that should have been anticipated, but were not. Please do not fall into the same trap by reacting to the posting by generating more e-mail on the subject. NOTE: This e-mail is being sent to each addressee on the list that I was a part of (I apologize in advance if you receive more than one copy - this may happen if you have more than one address on the original list that was sent). However, it is only being sent to a few addressees at a time in small address groups. This is to prevent further mass mailings. Once this e-mail has been sent I am deleting the address group from my computer. I would ask that you do the same. Michael F. Bowman Speaking in | mfbowman@scouter.com netcommish@aol.com the Scouting | The NetCommish http://members.aol.com/netcommish Spirit from | Professor Beaver Online - http://usscouts.org/profbvr/ Alexandria, VA| U.S. Scouting Service Project - http://usscouts.org From mmstines@blazenet.net Thu Mar 5 09:04:58 1998 Return-Path: mmstines@blazenet.net Received: from regulus.blazenet.net (root@regulus.blazenet.net [24.104.0.39]) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id JAA01538 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:04:58 -0500 Received: from blazenet.net (dial41.BlazeNet.net [24.104.1.41]) by regulus.blazenet.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA08254 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:03:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <34FEAF31.380758DE@blazenet.net> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 08:57:05 -0500 From: Marge and Martin Stines X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Michael F. Bowman" Subject: THANK YOU!!!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO X-Status: We have been trying to tell people that if they just ignore the mass e-mailing that it will go away. But Seems we did not succeed. and With our server we "cannot" send mass mailings. WHICH IS THE WAY WE LIKE IT!!!! I have tried several times to e-mail the person whose name was first on the list of this spamming but I kept getting a reply that he is not on AOL Server. I think we are just "victims" coz we may have signed this persons guest book I know I did.. But thank you for letting us know. I too beleive it is just someone who started out on the net and so therefore he thinks if he sent these mass mailings he would get people to visit his site, BUT what he got was a lot of "angry people" SO once again "Thank You!!" Marge & Marty -- Our personal e-mail address is; 1. mailto:mmstines@blazenet.net 2. mailto:mmstines@juno.com Our personal web page The Stines Home is at; http://yourpage.blazenet.net/mmstines/ : ) : ) : ) : ) : ) : ) : ) : ) : ) : ) : ) : ) From mcnabb@avl.umd.edu Thu Mar 5 09:21:29 1998 Return-Path: mcnabb@avl.umd.edu Received: from jupiter.avl.umd.edu (mcnabb@jupiter.avl.umd.edu [129.2.5.3]) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id JAA06043 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:21:29 -0500 Received: (mcnabb@localhost) by jupiter.avl.umd.edu (8.6.12/8.6.6mWLS) id JAA29703 for mfbowman@CapAccess.org; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:13:53 -0500 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:13:53 -0500 From: mcnabb@avl.umd.edu (David McNabb ) Message-Id: <199803051413.JAA29703@jupiter.avl.umd.edu> To: mfbowman@CapAccess.org Subject: Re: Your Help Requested Content-Length: 196 Status: RO X-Status: Shoudl have been sent one at a time, and while I would normally complain that you too are spamming me, hopefully this will be helpful. In any case, don't send me any more email on this subject. From terry@scouter.com Thu Mar 5 09:21:33 1998 Return-Path: terry@scouter.com Received: from bp.scouter.com ([208.18.92.11]) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id JAA06048 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:21:33 -0500 Received: from chief [172.16.0.51] by bp.scouter.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id A18D2F40102; Thu, 05 Mar 1998 08:07:09 CST6CDT Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:17:08 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD480F.16DF8AA0.terry@scouter.com> From: Terry Howerton Reply-To: "terry@scouter.com" To: "'Michael F. Bowman'" Subject: RE: Your Help Please Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:17:07 -0600 Organization: Scouter's Journal Magazine X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Encoding: 9 TEXT Status: RO X-Status: | However, it is only being sent to a few addressees at a | time in small address groups. This is to prevent further mass | mailings. | GOOD SHOW! Bully to you. TERRY From leslie@ed.ca Thu Mar 5 09:26:46 1998 Return-Path: leslie@ed.ca Received: from zothommog.evcom.net (root@zothommog.evcom.net [208.136.203.8]) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id JAA07430 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:26:46 -0500 Received: from [208.153.101.40] (wpb-tcr1-40.evcom.net [208.153.101.40]) by zothommog.evcom.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA26716 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:19:09 -0500 X-Sender: leslie@mail.connectmmic.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:33:32 -0400 To: "Michael F. Bowman" From: leslie@ed.ca (Leslie Eiser) Subject: Scouting Email Mess - Check the PS!!!! Status: RO X-Status: Hi Michael - Got your email - very nicely worded - and I of course agree completely. I sent the following out yesterday to everyone who emailed me (new message - copy only the to) and have actually got back very pleasant responses. ******* Hi I'm the webmaster at www.ed-foods.com, and I have been hit by this massive 'Scouting' email mess. I have no idea how to stop it. (I've gotten over 150 emails on the subject - my address must be on their list somewhere, although I can't imagine how - we give away free samples of soup - and have nothing to do with Boy Scouts). Neither I, nor my web site are involved, but since I seem to be included - please accept my appologies! Trust me - I'm not thrilled about this either! Leslie ******************************** (and the Folks at E.D. Foods) http://www.ed-foods.com 1-800-267-3333 The Home of Simply Souper Soups! {*<*} {*>*} Looking out for our customers PS: Hi, I don't think you meant to do this, but your very innocent remove message has contributed to an email mess of monster proportions. Some of the email names you listed are actually compacted names - ie hundreds of names - some duplicates even. You not only sent your 'remove' email to the persons on your list, but also to me (along with hundreds of other people apparently). The only fix is to delete all those names, probably from your address book and start over - I'm getting dozens of copies of email - all related to scouting, and all not requested! What a mess! (Isn't it fun to use email - such a broadening experience! 8-) ) Leslie ****************** I read each and every message - if it looked like it was a response to the original email - they got the above. If it was a flame, I toned down a little, but said basically the same thing. Bottom line, it seems to have been turned around. When I was a newbie (all of 6 months ago) I accidently sent out a one word (the word was test) email to over 100 people. I have a newsletter (Soup Central News - currently over 3000 subscribers!), and I was learning how to use a new newsletter routine - Actually, that one word message got more responses, by percentage,than my actual newsletter - 41 people responded - mostly wits like - test, what test - or 'if this had been a real test....'. Trust me, email bloopers I can understand! Nice letter from you by the way - to the point and clear. I think we've turned to corner. Oh, and according to the Meyer's - 'howdy' has had his email account yanked. Probably learned a good lesson to - although the lesson will have been learned bests by the poor isp that drives geocities! Be well Leslie ******************************** (and the Folks at E.D. Foods) http://www.ed-foods.com 1-800-267-3333 The Home of Simply Souper Soups! {*<*} {*>*} Looking out for our customers From cupofjoe@uclink4.berkeley.edu Thu Mar 5 05:41:10 1998 Return-Path: cupofjoe@uclink4.berkeley.edu Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id FAA05053 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 05:41:10 -0500 Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (uclink.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.136.7]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA02169 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 02:33:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from cupofjoe (dialup5-berkeley.autobahn.org [206.79.223.105]) by uclink.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA10958 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 02:32:23 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980305012520.007e48c0@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: cupofjoe@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 02:34:24 -0800 To: "Michael F. Bowman" From: Joe Yang Subject: Thank You Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: RO X-Status: Dear Michael, I would just like to take a moment of your time to thank you for your well-versed letter explaining the spamming situation to everyone. It is good to see someone step forward and take hold of the situation. I know this may go against the desired effect of eliminating pointless e-mails, but I just wanted to applaud you. Thank You. In LFS, Joe... ________________________________________________ In Leadership, Friendship and Service, A PPPPPPPPP OOOOOOOO AAA PPP OOOO OOOO AAAAA PPPPPPP OOO OOO AAA AAA PPP PPP PPP OOO OOO AAA AAA PP PPP PP OO OO AAAAAAAAAAA PPP PPP PPP OO OO AAAAAAAAAAAAA PPPPPPP OO OO AAA AAA PPP OOOOO OOOOO AAA AAA PPPPPPPPP OOOOO OOOOO Joe Yang, Membership Vice President Gamma Gamma Chapter, Univ. California, Berkeley membership@gammagamma.apo.org ________________________________________________ From spruiell@tstar.net Thu Mar 5 06:07:06 1998 Return-Path: spruiell@tstar.net Received: from orion.tstar.net (orion.tstar.net [208.21.250.2]) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id GAA05786 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 06:07:06 -0500 Received: from default by orion.tstar.net (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id EAA27462; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 04:52:59 -0600 Message-ID: <34FE852A.8FF@tstar.net> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 04:57:46 -0600 From: jesse and shelli spruiell Reply-To: spruiell@tstar.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mfbowman@CapAccess.org Subject: e-mail Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO X-Status: A short note to say thanks for your message...I have also been trying to send this same message to all the "re's" I've been getting on a one on one basis--I'm glad someone else out there took the time to help straighten out this situation Shelli From jrichardson@vredenburg.com Thu Mar 5 06:17:28 1998 Return-Path: jrichardson@vredenburg.com Received: from centurion.vredenburg.com (root@centurion.vredenburg.com [199.79.173.161]) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id GAA06335 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 06:17:28 -0500 Received: from smtpgw.vredenburg.com (smtpgw.vredenburg.com [199.79.173.2]) by centurion.vredenburg.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA00588 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 06:09:58 -0500 Received: from ccMail by smtpgw.vredenburg.com (IMA Internet Exchange 2.12 Enterprise) id 0001C380; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 06:04:58 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 06:01:27 -0500 Message-ID: <0001C380.3139@vredenburg.com> From: jrichardson@vredenburg.com (Jason Richardson) Subject: Re: Your Help Requested To: "Michael F. Bowman" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Status: RO X-Status: Mike - thanks, this is a well thought out message. I, too, after 4 days of receiving about 100 messages, replied to all asking this to stop. In retrospect, I should not have. Several people responded to me pointing out the errors of my ways. I was shocked at the amount of responses that contained profanity and personal attacks. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Your Help Requested Author: "Michael F. Bowman" at Internet Date: 3/5/98 2:01 AM Each of you has received numerous messages under the subject "Scouting Website" along with a long list of addressees. Many have felt compelled to respond to the entire list of addressees out of concern, frustration, or even anger. Each response has perpetuated the problem of each of us receiving numerous huge e-mails clogging up our e-mail systems. The only way to stop this nonesense is for all of us to quit responding to the entire list and let this thing die. PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND TO ANY POSTING WITH THE SUBJECT SCOUTING WEBSITE or any related topic that has resulted from these mailings. If you see a huge list of addressees respond only to the person who originated the posting. The rest of the folks on the list are victims too and do not need to be further victimized. One of the recipients of the list has suggested reporting everyone on the list as a spammer out of frustration. This is ill-advised and will make the problem worse. The people on the address list are victims and not spammers. Reporting them as spammers is a defamation and a falsehood and may create legal liability on the part of the person making such a false report. Please recognize that a lot of folks are new to the Internet and sometimes do things that are not particularly well thought-out as was the case with the original author here. No doubt the consequences of his posting has generated unintended consequences that should have been anticipated, but were not. Please do not fall into the same trap by reacting to the posting by generating more e-mail on the subject. NOTE: This e-mail is being sent to each addressee on the list that I was a part of (I apologize in advance if you receive more than one copy - this may happen if you have more than one address on the original list that was sent). However, it is only being sent to a few addressees at a time in small address groups. This is to prevent further mass mailings. Once this e-mail has been sent I am deleting the address group from my computer. I would ask that you do the same. Michael F. Bowman Speaking in | mfbowman@scouter.com netcommish@aol.com the Scouting | The NetCommish http://members.aol.com/netcommish Spirit from | Professor Beaver Online - http://usscouts.org/profbvr/ Alexandria, VA| U.S. Scouting Service Project - http://usscouts.org From phbrown Thu Mar 5 06:32:55 1998 Return-Path: phbrown Received: (from phbrown@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id GAA07431; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 06:32:54 -0500 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 06:32:54 -0500 (EST) From: "Paul H. Brown" To: "Michael F. Bowman" Subject: Re: Your Help Requested In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: thanx, Mike Paul H. Brown, KD4UPD I used to be an Antelope, WB 82-66 Scout Roundtable Commissioner, Assistant District Commissioner, Pack CC George Washington District, National Capital Area Council, BSA From resb@earthlink.net Thu Mar 5 06:53:04 1998 Return-Path: resb@earthlink.net Received: from sweden.it.earthlink.net (sweden-c.it.earthlink.net [204.250.46.50]) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id GAA08462 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 06:53:04 -0500 Received: from earthlink.net (1Cust217.tnt16.chi5.da.uu.net [153.36.178.217]) by sweden.it.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA00826 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 03:45:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <34FE9052.8BA727C7@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 05:45:22 -0600 From: "Rachel E. Stassen-Berger" Reply-To: resb@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Michael F. Bowman" Subject: Re: Your Help Requested References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO X-Status: Tanks for sending out such a well thought out message about the scouting web site problem. Best, Rachel -- Rachel E. Stassen-Berger Freelance Journalist rachel@reporters.net Find out about the new "Web for Journalists" course: http://mav.net/guidelines/syllabus.htm Founder and Co-owner of the Writers' Guidelines Database: http://mav.net/guidelines From hducat@commspec.com Thu Mar 5 07:24:09 1998 Return-Path: hducat@commspec.com Received: from commspw.commspec.com ([207.106.162.238]) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id HAA11564 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 07:24:09 -0500 Received: from bbs.commspec.com (ms2.popsite.net [207.240.233.51]) by commspw.commspec.com (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with ESMTP id HAA00123 for ; Thu, 05 Mar 1998 07:09:25 -0500 Message-Id: <199803051209.HAA00123@commspw.commspec.com> From: "Howard C. Ducat" To: "Michael F. Bowman" Subject: RE: Your Help Requested Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 07:16:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Status: RO X-Status: Just stop ending me messages. > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael F. Bowman [mailto:mfbowman@CapAccess.org] > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 1998 1:15 AM > To: em@cleanearthcorp.com; aa854@cleveland.freenet.edu; mike@clinet.fi; > pack1087@club.infocom.net; notaris.dierckx@club.innet.be; > ltorres@cmq.com; chris_barr@cnet.com; citadel@cnz.com; > docwats@coastlink.com.au; normandp@cobb-vantress.com; > rmurphy@colorado.edu; gk84@columbia.edu; martin@com.softnet.co.uk; > covenant2@comclin.net; rh_smith@comet.net; imagine@comevisit.com; > info@commersel.com; hducat@commspec.com; mbrody@comm-tech.win-uk.net; > rohughes@comp.uark.edu; chris_sutton@compuserve.com; > jimtamms@compuserve.com; peteford@compuserve.com; jx4@compuserve.com; > 70700.2653@compuserve.com; 70065.174@compuserve.com; > 71234.2712@compuserve.com; 71302.715@compuserve.com; > knickson@compuserve.com; amachi@compuserve.com; > 71203.2537@compuserve.com; 74724.12@compuserve.com; > martinpalmer1@compuserve.com; 75017.375@compuserve.com > Subject: Your Help Requested > > > Each of you has received numerous messages under the subject "Scouting > Website" along with a long list of addressees. Many have felt compelled > to respond to the entire list of addressees out of concern, frustration, > or even anger. Each response has perpetuated the problem of each of us > receiving numerous huge e-mails clogging up our e-mail systems. The only > way to stop this nonesense is for all of us to quit responding to the > entire list and let this thing die. > > PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND TO ANY POSTING WITH THE SUBJECT SCOUTING WEBSITE or > any related topic that has resulted from these mailings. > > If you see a huge list of addressees respond only to the person who > originated the posting. The rest of the folks on the list are victims too > and do not need to be further victimized. > > One of the recipients of the list has suggested reporting everyone on the > list as a spammer out of frustration. This is ill-advised and will make > the problem worse. The people on the address list are victims and not > spammers. Reporting them as spammers is a defamation and a falsehood and > may create legal liability on the part of the person making such a false > report. > > Please recognize that a lot of folks are new to the Internet and > sometimes do things that are not particularly well thought-out as was the > case with the original author here. No doubt the consequences of his > posting has generated unintended consequences that should have been > anticipated, but were not. Please do not fall into the same trap by > reacting to the posting by generating more e-mail on the subject. > > NOTE: This e-mail is being sent to each addressee on the list that I was > a part of (I apologize in advance if you receive more than one copy - > this may happen if you have more than one address on the original list > that was sent). However, it is only being sent to a few addressees at a > time in small address groups. This is to prevent further mass mailings. > Once this e-mail has been sent I am deleting the address group from my > computer. I would ask that you do the same. > > Michael F. Bowman > > Speaking in | mfbowman@scouter.com netcommish@aol.com > the Scouting | The NetCommish http://members.aol.com/netcommish > Spirit from | Professor Beaver Online - http://usscouts.org/profbvr/ > Alexandria, VA| U.S. Scouting Service Project - http://usscouts.org > > > From jwoolley@esva.net Thu Mar 5 10:41:10 1998 Return-Path: jwoolley@esva.net Received: from server.esva.net (root@server.esva.net [205.157.137.10]) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id KAA25448 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:41:10 -0500 Received: from pm1006.esva.net (pm1006.esva.net [209.49.153.6]) by server.esva.net (8.8.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA01371 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:33:38 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:33:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803051533.KAA01371@server.esva.net> X-Sender: jwoolley@mailhost.esva.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: From: Jack Woolley Subject: spam on Scout net. Status: RO X-Status: Dear Michael F Bowman: Thank you so much for puting a handel on this mess, i for one have done what you suggested and sent a reply to the originial sender then deleted every thing else. You are truly ans. this problem with true Scout spirit. keep up the good work in Scouting. Your Friend in Scouting Jack Woolley, unit commissioner,Troop 314 Va District, Delmava council jwoolley@esva.net From pfarnham@asbmb.faseb.org Thu Mar 5 10:45:47 1998 Return-Path: pfarnham@asbmb.faseb.org Received: from ns1.faseb.org (ns1.faseb.org [208.198.186.2]) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id KAA26413 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:45:47 -0500 Received: from asbmb.faseb.org ([192.0.209.253]) by ns1.faseb.org with SMTP (1.37.109.24/16.2) id AA016112186; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:36:26 -0500 Received: by asbmb.faseb.org(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.06 (346.8 3-18-1997)) id 852565BE.0055EF78 ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:38:38 -0400 X-Lotus-Fromdomain: ASBMB From: "Peter Farnham" To: mfbowman@CapAccess.org Message-Id: <852565BE.0054B320.00@asbmb.faseb.org> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:28:53 -0400 Subject: Re: Your Help Requested Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: A Mike, Amen, bro'. You might be intersted in knowing that I sent a reply to "Howdy7476@aol.com" or whatever the original poster's address was that started this whole mess, asking to be dropped from his mailing list. I got a bounceback--no such address. This tells me that this whole thing was started by someone as a prank, it seems to me, and not by a mere novice on the Internet. I can tell you that there's no way I'm going to visit the website he calls our attention to--God knows what would happen. In any case, I think that after the initial barrage of responses to the original posting, things seem to be calming down. I've only gotten one or two "unsubscribe" notes yesterday, and only one today besides yours. Yis, Pete Farnham SM, Troop 113 Alexandria, VA From jbloom@arrl.org Thu Mar 5 11:19:28 1998 Return-Path: jbloom@arrl.org Received: from listserv.arrl.org (root@listserv.arrl.org [205.217.201.4]) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id LAA04588 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:19:28 -0500 Received: from arrl.org by listserv.arrl.org with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #9) id m0yAdFI-000o5DC; Thu, 5 Mar 98 11:11 EST Message-ID: <34FECEBD.12ED321F@arrl.org> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 11:11:41 -0500 From: Jon Bloom Organization: American Radio Relay League X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Michael F. Bowman" Subject: Re: Your Help Requested References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO X-Status: Well said, and thanks! Jon -- Jon Bloom, KE3Z jbloom@arrl.org From rsutter@se240.com Thu Mar 5 12:44:30 1998 Return-Path: rsutter@se240.com Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (root@proxy4.ba.best.com [206.184.139.15]) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id MAA26216 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:44:30 -0500 Received: from se240.com (rjs.vip.best.com [205.149.161.6]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.8.8/8.8.BEST) with ESMTP id JAA22239 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:33:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <34FEE12A.4D18C7FF@se240.com> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 09:30:19 -0800 From: Rick Sutter Organization: EPRI/asa X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Michael F. Bowman" Subject: Re: Your Help Requested References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO X-Status: Very well articulated, Michael. I have taken your advise already and just sent into to the originator only. At the same time... I have tried to let this lie and will continue to do so! In scouting spirit Rick Sutter Pack 203 San Ramon, CA Michael F. Bowman wrote: > Each of you has received numerous messages under the subject "Scouting > Website" along with a long list of addressees. Many have felt compelled > to respond to the entire list of addressees out of concern, frustration, > or even anger. Each response has perpetuated the problem of each of us > receiving numerous huge e-mails clogging up our e-mail systems. The only > way to stop this nonesense is for all of us to quit responding to the > entire list and let this thing die. > > PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND TO ANY POSTING WITH THE SUBJECT SCOUTING WEBSITE or > any related topic that has resulted from these mailings. > > If you see a huge list of addressees respond only to the person who > originated the posting. The rest of the folks on the list are victims too > and do not need to be further victimized. > > One of the recipients of the list has suggested reporting everyone on the > list as a spammer out of frustration. This is ill-advised and will make > the problem worse. The people on the address list are victims and not > spammers. Reporting them as spammers is a defamation and a falsehood and > may create legal liability on the part of the person making such a false > report. > > Please recognize that a lot of folks are new to the Internet and > sometimes do things that are not particularly well thought-out as was the > case with the original author here. No doubt the consequences of his > posting has generated unintended consequences that should have been > anticipated, but were not. Please do not fall into the same trap by > reacting to the posting by generating more e-mail on the subject. > > NOTE: This e-mail is being sent to each addressee on the list that I was > a part of (I apologize in advance if you receive more than one copy - > this may happen if you have more than one address on the original list > that was sent). However, it is only being sent to a few addressees at a > time in small address groups. This is to prevent further mass mailings. > Once this e-mail has been sent I am deleting the address group from my > computer. I would ask that you do the same. > > Michael F. Bowman > > Speaking in | mfbowman@scouter.com netcommish@aol.com > the Scouting | The NetCommish http://members.aol.com/netcommish > Spirit from | Professor Beaver Online - http://usscouts.org/profbvr/ > Alexandria, VA| U.S. Scouting Service Project - http://usscouts.org From unit6bsa@juno.com Thu Mar 5 15:24:13 1998 Return-Path: unit6bsa@juno.com Received: from x3.boston.juno.com (x3.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.22]) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id PAA05668 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:24:13 -0500 Received: (from unit6bsa@juno.com) by x3.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id PRU21906; Thu, 05 Mar 1998 15:15:36 EST To: mfbowman@CapAccess.org Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 14:30:17 -0500 Subject: Nice Job Message-ID: <19980305.143044.3822.0.unit6bsa@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,6-14 From: unit6bsa@juno.com (Scout Leader BSA, Unit 6) Status: RO X-Status: My name is Michael McGuire, I was one of the people that somehow got onto this mass mailing list. My message concerns the E-Mail that you recently sent. The things that you said were great, if only everyone thought like that - we would not have thins problem in the first place. I am sorry to have taken up your time with this, but I felt it necessary to complement you. Michael McGuire unit6bsa@juno.com http://members.tripod.com/~unit6/troop.html (Boy Scout Troop 6) http://members.tripod.com/~unit6/ship.html (Sea Explorer Ship 6) _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From pfredell@earthlink.net Thu Mar 5 15:38:19 1998 Return-Path: pfredell@earthlink.net Received: from germany.it.earthlink.net (germany-c.it.earthlink.net [204.250.46.123]) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id PAA08950 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:38:19 -0500 Received: from alrhost.alrhbr.net (pool012-dwan9.pw-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net [207.217.133.162]) by germany.it.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA28972 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:30:43 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803052030.MAA28972@germany.it.earthlink.net> From: "Paul Fredell" To: "Michael F. Bowman" Date: Thu, 05 Mar 98 12:30:43 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Fredell" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Your Help Requested Status: RO X-Status: On Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:54:36 -0500 (EST), Michael F. Bowman wrote: >Each of you has received numerous messages under the subject "Scouting >Website" along with a long list of addressees. Many have felt compelled >to respond to the entire list of addressees out of concern, frustration, >or even anger. Each response has perpetuated the problem of each of us >receiving numerous huge e-mails clogging up our e-mail systems. The only >way to stop this nonesense is for all of us to quit responding to the >entire list and let this thing die. > Thank you for bring a ray of common sense to this silly affair. I have sent a copy of the original post along with the apparent address of the originator to the postmaster at AOL. You may want to do the same. ==WPF== pfredell@earthlink.net fredell@ibm.net http://home.earthlink.net/~pfredell From troop511@hotmail.com Thu Mar 5 16:36:39 1998 Return-Path: troop511@hotmail.com Received: from hotmail.com (f141.hotmail.com [207.82.251.20]) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id QAA23529 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:36:39 -0500 Received: (qmail 10799 invoked by uid 0); 5 Mar 1998 21:28:31 -0000 Message-ID: <19980305212831.10798.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 192.9.25.21 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 05 Mar 1998 13:28:31 PST X-Originating-IP: [192.9.25.21] From: "Lloyd Callahan" To: mfbowman@CapAccess.org Subject: Thank You Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 13:28:31 PST Status: RO X-Status: Michael, I just wanted to say thank you. Finally a voice of reason and sanity amidst this mess. Tony L. Callahan Scoutmaster Troop 511 Broomfield, CO http://www.angelfire.com/co/troop511 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From stewart@the2dollarshop.co.nz Thu Mar 5 17:28:12 1998 Return-Path: stewart@the2dollarshop.co.nz Received: from fep1-orange.clear.net.nz (fep1-orange.clear.net.nz [203.97.32.1]) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id RAA06535 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 17:28:12 -0500 From: stewart@the2dollarshop.co.nz Received: from the2dollarshop.co.nz (d1-u40.acld.clear.net.nz [203.97.48.40]) by fep1-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.9) with ESMTP id LAA09176; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:20:08 +1300 (NZDT) Message-ID: <34FF24E8.4105CBD@the2dollarshop.co.nz> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 11:19:21 +1300 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Michael F. Bowman" Subject: Re: Your Help Please References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO X-Status: Micheal I have tried to contact the idiot that origonated the mass mailing and asked to be removed from the list I see that it has not happened and asm still receiving these huge WASTE OF MY PRECIOUS TIME MESSAGES. I have contacted Geocities where the homepage for the idiot is and outlined the problem. The next step I will be taking is to contact the "NetCops" of whom I am familiar with (An associate of mine is one). This has gotten way out of hand, especially as people on the list respamed us with their iodiotic request to be removed from the list, instead of targeting the sender. I totally agree with you, people should just get a GRIP and get on with it. Please note the Email address for the site wanting people to visit, came back not known. Oh well shit happens, have a spam free day :-) $2Stewart Stewart Salmon Michael F. Bowman wrote: > Each of you has received numerous messages under the subject "Scouting > Website" along with a long list of addressees. Many have felt compelled > to respond to the entire list of addressees out of concern, frustration, > or even anger. Each response has perpetuated the problem of each of us > receiving numerous huge e-mails clogging up our e-mail systems. The only > way to stop this nonesense is for all of us to quit responding to the > entire list and let this thing die. > > PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND TO ANY POSTING WITH THE SUBJECT SCOUTING WEBSITE or > any related topic that has resulted from these mailings. > > If you see a huge list of addressees respond only to the person who > originated the posting. The rest of the folks on the list are victims too > and do not need to be further victimized. > > One of the recipients of the list has suggested reporting everyone on the > list as a spammer out of frustration. This is ill-advised and will make > the problem worse. The people on the address list are victims and not > spammers. Reporting them as spammers is a defamation and a falsehood and > may create legal liability on the part of the person making such a false > report. > > Please recognize that a lot of folks are new to the Internet and > sometimes do things that are not particularly well thought-out as was the > case with the original author here. No doubt the consequences of his > posting has generated unintended consequences that should have been > anticipated, but were not. Please do not fall into the same trap by > reacting to the posting by generating more e-mail on the subject. > > NOTE: This e-mail is being sent to each addressee on the list that I was > a part of (I apologize in advance if you receive more than one copy - > this may happen if you have more than one address on the original list > that was sent). However, it is only being sent to a few addressees at a > time in small address groups. This is to prevent further mass mailings. > Once this e-mail has been sent I am deleting the address group from my > computer. I would ask that you do the same. > > Michael F. Bowman > > Speaking in | mfbowman@scouter.com netcommish@aol.com > the Scouting | The NetCommish http://members.aol.com/netcommish > Spirit from | Professor Beaver Online - http://usscouts.org/profbvr/ > Alexandria, VA| U.S. Scouting Service Project - http://usscouts.org From shenning@fast.net Thu Mar 5 12:19:22 1998 Return-Path: shenning@fast.net Received: from post1.fast.net (post1.fast.net [198.69.204.13]) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id MAA19903 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:19:22 -0500 Received: from [206.245.144.11] (max1-11.PHL.FAST.NET [206.245.144.11]) by post1.fast.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA17841 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:11:47 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: shenning@pop.fast.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:10:05 -0500 To: "Michael F. Bowman" From: "S. M. Henning" Subject: Re: Your Help Requested Status: RO X-Status: Michael People such as yourself are making the problem worse by putting more than one address in your "To:" list. Only one address should be placed in the "To:" list and the rest should be placed in the "Bcc:" list. These copies can not be spammed since this is the Blind Co-Copy list. I do thank you for dividing the list into small pieces so only a handfull of people can jump on your posting and spam me. Cheers, Steve Henning in Reading, PA USA http://www.users.fast.net/~shenning From curzon@fastnet.co.uk Thu Mar 5 14:18:52 1998 Return-Path: curzon@fastnet.co.uk Received: from server1.capaccess.org (server1.CapAccess.org [151.200.199.15]) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id OAA19393 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 14:18:52 -0500 Received: from ns0.fast.net.uk (ns0.fast.net.uk [194.207.104.1]) by server1.capaccess.org (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with ESMTP id OAA03622 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 14:07:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (pool-021.fastnet.co.uk [194.207.106.21]) by ns0.fast.net.uk (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA08106 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 19:06:51 GMT Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980305180138.007385cc@mailhost.fastnet.co.uk> X-Anon: True X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 18:01:38 +0000 To: "Michael F. Bowman" From: David Oxley Subject: Re: Your Help Requested In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: RO X-Status: A Hi.. I got SIX copies of this e-mail.. I have only one e-mail address.. I know you meant well - but they were the ONLY SIX messages that I received on the subject of the list. Didn't you think that by telling everyone not to perpetuate the problem that you were YOURSELF continuing the problem and are probably going to cause a few more flames to the list. (Notice that this e-mail is sent to you and NOT to the list.) Dave At 01:59 05/03/98 -0500, you wrote: >Each of you has received numerous messages under the subject "Scouting >Website" along with a long list of addressees. Many have felt compelled >to respond to the entire list of addressees out of concern, frustration, >or even anger. Each response has perpetuated the problem of each of us >receiving numerous huge e-mails clogging up our e-mail systems. The only >way to stop this nonesense is for all of us to quit responding to the >entire list and let this thing die. > >PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND TO ANY POSTING WITH THE SUBJECT SCOUTING WEBSITE or >any related topic that has resulted from these mailings. > >If you see a huge list of addressees respond only to the person who >originated the posting. The rest of the folks on the list are victims too >and do not need to be further victimized. > >One of the recipients of the list has suggested reporting everyone on the >list as a spammer out of frustration. This is ill-advised and will make >the problem worse. The people on the address list are victims and not >spammers. Reporting them as spammers is a defamation and a falsehood and >may create legal liability on the part of the person making such a false >report. > >Please recognize that a lot of folks are new to the Internet and >sometimes do things that are not particularly well thought-out as was the >case with the original author here. No doubt the consequences of his >posting has generated unintended consequences that should have been >anticipated, but were not. Please do not fall into the same trap by >reacting to the posting by generating more e-mail on the subject. > >NOTE: This e-mail is being sent to each addressee on the list that I was >a part of (I apologize in advance if you receive more than one copy - >this may happen if you have more than one address on the original list >that was sent). However, it is only being sent to a few addressees at a >time in small address groups. This is to prevent further mass mailings. >Once this e-mail has been sent I am deleting the address group from my >computer. I would ask that you do the same. > >Michael F. Bowman > >Speaking in | mfbowman@scouter.com netcommish@aol.com >the Scouting | The NetCommish http://members.aol.com/netcommish >Spirit from | Professor Beaver Online - http://usscouts.org/profbvr/ >Alexandria, VA| U.S. Scouting Service Project - http://usscouts.org > > =/\= David Oxley curzon@fastnet.co.uk =/\= "I am Not a Merry Man," Lt Worf - QPid: Star Trek TNG =/\= From sojoin@inlink.com Thu Mar 5 18:16:51 1998 Return-Path: sojoin@inlink.com Received: from thor.inlink.com (thor.inlink.com [206.196.96.1]) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id SAA17180 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:16:51 -0500 Received: from superman (sojoin.inlink.com [206.196.100.90]) by thor.inlink.com (8.8.8/V8) with SMTP id RAA21190; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 17:13:18 -0600 Message-ID: <34FF2EBD.2F9D@inlink.com> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 17:01:17 -0600 From: sojoin Reply-To: sojoin@inlink.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Michael F. Bowman" CC: try_me_1st@hotmail.com Subject: Re: Your Help Please References: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------D6D1E49BF4" Status: RO X-Status: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------D6D1E49BF4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Michael F. Bowman wrote: > > Each of you has received numerous messages under the subject "Scouting > Website" along with a long list of addressees. Many have felt compelled > to respond to the entire list of addressees out of concern, frustration, > or even anger. Each response has perpetuated the problem of each of us > receiving numerous huge e-mails clogging up our e-mail systems. The only > way to stop this nonesense is for all of us to quit responding to the > entire list and let this thing die. > > PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND TO ANY POSTING WITH THE SUBJECT SCOUTING WEBSITE or > any related topic that has resulted from these mailings. > > If you see a huge list of addressees respond only to the person who > originated the posting. The rest of the folks on the list are victims too > and do not need to be further victimized. > > One of the recipients of the list has suggested reporting everyone on the > list as a spammer out of frustration. This is ill-advised and will make > the problem worse. The people on the address list are victims and not > spammers. Reporting them as spammers is a defamation and a falsehood and > may create legal liability on the part of the person making such a false > report. > > Please recognize that a lot of folks are new to the Internet and > sometimes do things that are not particularly well thought-out as was the > case with the original author here. No doubt the consequences of his > posting has generated unintended consequences that should have been > anticipated, but were not. Please do not fall into the same trap by > reacting to the posting by generating more e-mail on the subject. > > NOTE: This e-mail is being sent to each addressee on the list that I was > a part of (I apologize in advance if you receive more than one copy - > this may happen if you have more than one address on the original list > that was sent). However, it is only being sent to a few addressees at a > time in small address groups. This is to prevent further mass mailings. > Once this e-mail has been sent I am deleting the address group from my > computer. I would ask that you do the same. > > Michael F. Bowman > > Speaking in | mfbowman@scouter.com netcommish@aol.com > the Scouting | The NetCommish http://members.aol.com/netcommish > Spirit from | Professor Beaver Online - http://usscouts.org/profbvr/ > Alexandria, VA| U.S. Scouting Service Project - http://usscouts.org Thank you for trying to put an end to this. I have recieved many of the e-mail and have just deleted them all instead of trying to reply and keeping this thing going. Your information was well thought out and should help a lot of the newbies. Again Thanks your friend in scouting, Norris Schlup Pack 857 Troop 857 --------------D6D1E49BF4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii; name="~sojoin" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="~sojoin" Cub Scout Pack 857

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Pack 857 was formed in 1963. It has 68 registered boys with 27 registered adult leaders. Our chartered organization is Lewis and Clark elemertary school. In the following pages you can find out a little more about us and our activittes, as well as our next step in scouting, Troop 857.

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--------------D6D1E49BF4-- From astro@erols.com Thu Mar 5 19:29:14 1998 Return-Path: astro@erols.com Received: from smtp2.erols.com (smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id TAA00919 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 19:29:14 -0500 Received: from astro.erols.com (207-172-140-205.s14.as16.dam.erols.com [207.172.140.205]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA26823 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 19:21:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980305192055.007b4e00@pop.erols.com> X-Sender: astro@pop.erols.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 19:20:55 -0500 To: mfbowman@CapAccess.org From: Stephen Gauss Subject: scout spam Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: RO X-Status: Good message. I only would note that at least one of the originators apparently was using a bogus address. I sent an e-mail to webmaster@aol,com and got a polite but unhelpful reply. Stephen Gauss for Seneca, Olde Mill and Potomac Districts at www.erols.com/astro Regards, Stephen Gauss From astro@erols.com Thu Mar 5 19:46:03 1998 Return-Path: astro@erols.com Received: from smtp2.erols.com (smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id TAA04072 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 19:46:03 -0500 Received: from astro.erols.com (207-172-140-205.s14.as16.dam.erols.com [207.172.140.205]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA02863 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 19:38:31 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980305193744.007a9630@pop.erols.com> X-Sender: astro@pop.erols.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 19:37:44 -0500 To: "Michael F. Bowman" From: Stephen Gauss Subject: Re: scout spam In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.5.32.19980305192055.007b4e00@pop.erols.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: RO X-Status: At 07:37 PM 3/5/98 -0500, you wrote: >You must be spread pretty thin with involvement in three districts. Wow! Aren't we all! >Do any of the districts up where you are make much use of e-mail? yes, quite a bit. I have the registration form for SMF on our web site and almost ALL registrations are now received that way. Do >many of the folks use the NCAC listserver? Just curious. I wasn't aware of it. I don't normally use list servers. Regards, Stephen Gauss From webmaster@bignosebird.com Thu Mar 5 21:31:15 1998 Return-Path: webmaster@bignosebird.com Received: from server1.capaccess.org (server1.CapAccess.org [151.200.199.15]) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id VAA23622 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 21:31:15 -0500 Received: from mail.svr.vastnet.net (mail.svr.vastnet.net [207.252.72.10]) by server1.capaccess.org (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with ESMTP id VAA13854 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 21:22:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from bruce_nt (port52.netsvr1.cst.vastnet.net [207.252.73.52]) by mail.svr.vastnet.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA11581 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 21:24:47 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980305212408.00a43520@bignosebird.com> X-Sender: bnb@bignosebird.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 21:24:08 -0500 To: "Michael F. Bowman" From: "Bruce R. Gronich" Subject: Re: Your Help Requested In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: RO X-Status: A Hi Michael, All is quieting down on my front! Hey, how about a merit badge for e-mail technique? This was obviously not an act of maliciousness. Bruce At 01:12 AM 3/5/98 -0500, you wrote: >Each of you has received numerous messages under the subject "Scouting >Website" along with a long list of addressees. Many have felt compelled >to respond to the entire list of addressees out of concern, frustration, >or even anger. Each response has perpetuated the problem of each of us >receiving numerous huge e-mails clogging up our e-mail systems. The only >way to stop this nonesense is for all of us to quit responding to the >entire list and let this thing die. > >PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND TO ANY POSTING WITH THE SUBJECT SCOUTING WEBSITE or >any related topic that has resulted from these mailings. > >If you see a huge list of addressees respond only to the person who >originated the posting. The rest of the folks on the list are victims too >and do not need to be further victimized. > >One of the recipients of the list has suggested reporting everyone on the >list as a spammer out of frustration. This is ill-advised and will make >the problem worse. The people on the address list are victims and not >spammers. Reporting them as spammers is a defamation and a falsehood and >may create legal liability on the part of the person making such a false >report. > >Please recognize that a lot of folks are new to the Internet and >sometimes do things that are not particularly well thought-out as was the >case with the original author here. No doubt the consequences of his >posting has generated unintended consequences that should have been >anticipated, but were not. Please do not fall into the same trap by >reacting to the posting by generating more e-mail on the subject. > >NOTE: This e-mail is being sent to each addressee on the list that I was >a part of (I apologize in advance if you receive more than one copy - >this may happen if you have more than one address on the original list >that was sent). However, it is only being sent to a few addressees at a >time in small address groups. This is to prevent further mass mailings. >Once this e-mail has been sent I am deleting the address group from my >computer. I would ask that you do the same. > >Michael F. Bowman > >Speaking in | mfbowman@scouter.com netcommish@aol.com >the Scouting | The NetCommish http://members.aol.com/netcommish >Spirit from | Professor Beaver Online - http://usscouts.org/profbvr/ >Alexandria, VA| U.S. Scouting Service Project - http://usscouts.org > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- http://bignosebird.com/ webmaster@bignosebird.com Everything for the webmaster, for free! From tjoelfoster@juno.com Fri Mar 6 06:48:36 1998 Return-Path: tjoelfoster@juno.com Received: from server1.capaccess.org (server1.CapAccess.org [151.200.199.15]) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id GAA16996 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 06:48:36 -0500 Received: from x3.boston.juno.com (x3.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.22]) by server1.capaccess.org (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with ESMTP id GAA39936 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 06:40:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from tjoelfoster@juno.com) by x3.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id GLN10967; Fri, 06 Mar 1998 06:38:47 EST To: mfbowman@CapAccess.org Subject: Re: Your Help Requested Message-ID: <19980306.063555.13015.2.tjoelfoster@juno.com> References: X-Mailer: Juno 1.38 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0,2-4,6-18,20-23,25-27 From: tjoelfoster@juno.com (Thomas J Foster) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 06:38:47 EST Status: RO X-Status: On Thu, 5 Mar 1998 00:59:36 -0500 (EST) "Michael F. Bowman" writes: >Each response has perpetuated the problem of each of >us receiving numerous huge e-mails clogging up our e-mail systems. The >only way to stop this nonesense is for all of us to quit responding to the >entire list and let this thing die. > >PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND TO ANY POSTING WITH THE SUBJECT SCOUTING WEBSITE >or any related topic that has resulted from these mailings. > >Speaking in | mfbowman@scouter.com netcommish@aol.com >the Scouting | The NetCommish http://members.aol.com/netcommish >Spirit from | Professor Beaver Online - http://usscouts.org/profbvr/ >Alexandria, VA| U.S. Scouting Service Project - http://usscouts.org > > Thanks for being the lone voice of reason in all this garbage. I have been more offended by the replies that the posting. 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